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作者: EF66-1192 時間: 29-3-2013 21:57 標題: 3沙唔防水？

其實軍褲係咪唔防水架？

作者: gtoray 時間: 29-3-2013 22:15

防唔防水睇料而唔係睇花

作者: EF66-1192 時間: 29-3-2013 22:22

哦，明白
咁現役有邊隻係防水架？
可能1999 sorry

作者: 101空降tom 時間: 29-3-2013 22:23

哥踢屎

作者: sealsman 時間: 29-3-2013 22:47

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原帖由 101空降tom 於 29-3-2013 22:23 發表
哥踢屎

香港著soft shell都熱到

仲哥踢屎無返五度以下都咪搞

作者: SECOND 時間: 29-3-2013 23:46

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原帖由 sealsman 於 29/3/2013 10:47 PM 發表

香港著soft shell都熱到
仲哥踢屎無返五度以下都咪搞

GORETEX好薄咖WO

作者: sealsman 時間: 29-3-2013 23:57

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原帖由 SECOND 於 29-3-2013 23:46 發表

GORETEX好薄咖WO

softshell仲薄啦著得兩三年就爛一件

作者: MK~ 時間: 30-3-2013 00:13

GORETEX，係一種防水技術，係一層好薄既防水技術
一件薄薄既風褸，一頂帽，一對鞋都可以有GORETEX

但softshell，係多數人叫鯊魚皮既褸，通常係防水，但同時佢係好厚，保暖
唔係一種防水既技術

你不如搞清楚兩樣野先

作者: MK~ 時間: 30-3-2013 00:20

通常軍服要防水，可以買一D有Teflon protector的
但唔係完全防水，只係搧水，大雨一樣死
而且其實洗得多會失效

一般黎講要完全防水，上身你可以搵寫明waterproof防水褸，下身要用防水褲殼，鞋就搵有防水層，浸唔過鞋筒過D啦

其實E家要做到防水唔一定要係GORETEX，其它例如日本，韓國都有類似技術
只係GORETEX呢樣技術注冊左做一樣商品，可以話係一個公信力啦

佢只係一種技術，唔係一個品牌

作者: gtoray 時間: 30-3-2013 00:25

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原帖由 MK~ 於 30-3-2013 00:13 發表
GORETEX，係一種防水技術，係一層好薄既防水技術
一件薄薄既風褸，一頂帽，一對鞋都可以有GORETEX

但softshell，係多數人叫鯊魚皮既褸，通常係防水，但同時佢係好厚，保暖
唔係一種防水既技術

你不如搞清楚兩 ...

softshell 有分厚薄
以 TAD 為例
薄果隻比goretex仲薄仲軟, 入面有層好薄既coating
厚果隻加埋有絨咁解

作者: MK~ 時間: 30-3-2013 00:37

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原帖由 gtoray 於 30-3-2013 00:25 發表

softshell 有分厚薄
以 TAD 為例
薄果隻比goretex仲薄仲軟, 入面有層好薄既coating
厚果隻加埋有絨咁解

果隻唔係叫hard shell?

作者: gtoray 時間: 30-3-2013 00:50

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原帖由 MK~ 於 30-3-2013 00:37 發表

果隻唔係叫hard shell?

睇左 MM 我越睇越亂....x!!

我個人理解 hard shell 係薄得來硬, 防風防水性較強
成件 nbc suit 果隻

有錯請指正

作者: sealsman 時間: 30-3-2013 01:07

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原帖由 MK~ 於 30-3-2013 00:13 發表
GORETEX，係一種防水技術，係一層好薄既防水技術
一件薄薄既風褸，一頂帽，一對鞋都可以有GORETEX

但softshell，係多數人叫鯊魚皮既褸，通常係防水，但同時佢係好厚，保暖
唔係一種防水既技術

你不如搞清楚兩 ...

softshell=鯊魚皮?
咁薄膜果叫乜

http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/joe64r/article?mid=9437

[ 本帖最後由 sealsman 於 30-3-2013 01:10 編輯 ]

作者: MK~ 時間: 30-3-2013 01:19

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原帖由 gtoray 於 30-3-2013 00:50 發表

睇左 MM 我越睇越亂....x!!

我個人理解 hard shell 係薄得來硬, 防風防水性較強
成件 nbc suit 果隻

有錯請指正

其實有時我都唔太分得清楚><

有請巴打們指教！

作者: gtoray 時間: 30-3-2013 01:25

其實.....
又以TAD為例
有絨底果D其實仲有冇果層防水防風COATING GA?

我之前冇絨底果件一D都唔 HARD 喎.....x!!

唔似得 SPECTRE 果D咁?

作者: EF66-1192 時間: 30-3-2013 14:30

雖然睇完唔係完全明，不過le個po真係穫益良多

作者: rho837 時間: 30-3-2013 19:21

噴UED在衣物表面可以做到防水效果！

http://youtu.be/ABob1tfQDZ4

[ 本帖最後由 rho837 於 30-3-2013 19:26 編輯 ]

作者: ohnavi 時間: 30-3-2013 22:26

found something on web:

What is a Soft Shell?
Soft Shell is the term used to describe a new kind of outerwear that is more breathable, flexible, and comfortable than the stiff, crinkly Gore-Tex like pants and jackets (called Hard Shells) that have dominated the market for years now. Soft Shells combine many of the benefits of waterproof Hard Shells with more comfortable garments like fleece. Yet Soft Shells are neither.

The Problem with Hard Shells
Hard shells are made with laminates like Gore-Tex that are applied to the fabric used to make jackets and pants. Gore-Tex was such a hit—and still is—because of its unparalleled water resistant properties, and because it “breathes,” meaning it allows vapor from your sweat to escape from the shell while disallowing water from rain or snow to penetrate. But it doesn’t breathe enough!

The problem many outdoor enthusiasts have encountered is that when you’re outside, even in wet, cold, wintry conditions, and working up an aerobic sweat, this moisture remains trapped inside your Hard Shell jacket and pants rendering their waterproof factor useless. You’re left with an unpleasant clamminess that will chill you to the bone when you stop to rest. Besides the moisture problem, people just “got sick of the noise [from hard shell fabric], the zipping and unzipping, and wanted more comfortable apparel in the backcountry that you didn’t have to take on and off all day,” recounts Stephen Sullivan, Owner and Founder of Cloudveil, a Jackson based outerwear company.

Enter Soft Shells
Several pioneering companies, like Cloudveil, have independently sought to remedy the pitfalls of Hard Shells, and their collective work has resulted in Soft Shell technology. Soft Shells use sophisticated stretch woven fabrics with tight layered weaves and durable water repellent (DWR) treatments to guard against wind, rain, and snow in all but the most severe weather conditions. In other words, a Soft Shell keeps weather out like a Hard Shell, but breathes like fleece. That means you don’t get nearly as sweaty during aerobic activities like ascending a mountain or cross-country skiing, and you’re able to regulate your temperature much more effectively and remain comfortable during rigorous activity.

Besides unmatched breathability, Soft Shells are fantastically flexible relative to their Hard Shell counterparts, fitting to your body without constricting, and stretching naturally when you move. Climbers get a full range of motion and a nice fluid stab at the ice in a Soft Shell jacket without crinkly Hard Shell fabric impeding the swing of an axe. Skiers feel like they’re hiking up the mountain in quiet fitted slacks, not loud harsh Gore-Tex, and their legs can actually breathe in a Soft Shell pant reducing the need for side zips with bulky flaps.

The Soft Shell concept is still being refined. Many Soft Shell jackets lack obvious ski/snowboard features like a powder skirt and hood because they emerged mostly out of climbing pursuits and not resort skiing/riding. Jacob Uhland, our The North Face Sales Rep explains that about ten years ago after the Swiss developed Schoeller, the stretch fabric used to make The North Face’s and Cloudveil’s Soft Shells, “rock climbers were some of the first to embrace [it] due to its abrasion resistance and stretchy characteristics. Once people figured out how well it blocked wind and precipitation, it found its way into clothing for backcountry ski touring.” Voila!

Salomon has introduced Soft Shell jackets and pants oriented specifically for the resort throwing in features like a pocket for your disc player, powder skirt, hood, and reinforcements on pant cuffs that see high abrasion. Of course, if you’re a resort rider, you shouldn’t feel limited to these options—Soft Shells without hoods and powder skirts usually have cinchcords at the hem and collar that keep snow out effectively.

The Take Home Message
Soft Shells are pants and jackets made from stretchy fabric that fit like a glove without constricting, stretch fluidly with the body without resisting, and allow moisture to escape from inside without letting it penetrate from outside. They are good for all types of climbing, cross-country and backcountry skiing, hiking, and for any outdoor activity with an aerobic element where protection from rain and snow is important. Think of Soft Shells as one big efficient moisture management system. Like Gore-Tex, it shall be heralded a wonder garment.

Soft Shells compared to a Gore-Tex Shell:
3 times more breathable
Way more stretch
Not as waterproof but will easily shed hours of light, dry snowfall
Not as windproof but blocks about 90% of the wind
BY FAR more comfortable in all but the nastiest conditions

Soft Shells compared to fleece:
Does not pill, i.e., will not start looking like a terry cloth rag
Resists water whereas a fleece acts like a sponge in rain and snow
Blocks wind that cuts right through fleece
Don’t attract animal hair (pet owners love this quality!)

作者: rho837 時間: 31-3-2013 00:38

Yes! I use Solomon soft shell wears!

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