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作者: 積夫 時間: 21-12-2007 11:30 標題: Glock 17 缺點

G4 練槍走火傷腿
練習棄卡彈機槍　腰間拔曲尺出事
【本報訊】警隊其中一個神秘部門「保護要人組」（俗稱 G4 ）一名高級督察，昨日在灣仔警察總部的靶場進行射擊訓練時，手槍懷疑走火，子彈擊中自己的左腳受傷送院，幸無大礙。記者：溫文學、梁偉權、周志鴻

走火的 G4 高級督察馮健， 30 歲，是新調入 G4 部門工作，因此要進行一系列的射擊訓練。昨日下午 3 時許，馮在灣仔軍器廠街警察總部警政大樓的靶房進行一項「卡彈」射擊練習課程，該課程又稱為「故障操」，學員需要模擬使用一支衝鋒隊警員慣用的半自動 MP5 輕機槍、對付持有槍械的危險人物，並要模擬手上輕機槍突然「卡彈」，以考驗學員與拍檔的合作及應變能力。學員需要先關上「卡彈」輕機槍的保險掣，然後棄下輕機槍並拔出短槍，同時呼喚拍檔進行掩護。

子彈射大腿擦向小腿
據稱，馮慣用左手持槍，因此他的槍袋亦是放在左邊腰間。當時，馮棄下「卡彈」輕機槍後，即迅速從左腰槍袋中拔出他的 Glock 17 曲尺手槍，豈料就在這連環棄槍和拔槍的剎那間，該支 Glock 17 曲尺手槍突然走火，子彈射向馮的左大腿再擦向左小腿，當場受傷跌在地上，他事後被送院治理需要留醫，目前情況穩定。警方將事件列作「警務人員當值時受傷」處理。
30 歲的馮健，去年初駐守黃大仙區時為督察，出任特遣隊主管，因為先後破獲多宗棘手案件而備受上司讚賞，其後擢升為高級督察，較早前調往俗稱 G4 的保護要人組工作。
G4 、水警、飛虎隊及機場特警等特別部門人員，都是使用 Glock 17 曲尺手槍，今年 2 月 9 日，特首曾蔭權到油麻地出巡期間遇到請願人士，其中一名負責保護特首的 G4 人員，在阻止人群接近特首時，腰間的 Glock 17 曲尺手槍墮地，子彈四散，成為城中一時笑話。

G4 保護特別人物安全
保護要人組 VIPPU （ Very Important Person Protect Unit ），屬於警隊刑事及保安處所管轄，所謂 G4 ，是因為在港英年代隸屬政治部（ SB ） G 部門第 4 組，所以稱之為 G4 ，沿用至今，其任務是保護特別人物的人身安全，特首是 G4 日常要貼身保護的必然人物。

Glock 17 曲尺手槍小檔案

警隊使用部門：保護要人組（ G4 ）、水警、飛虎隊、機場特警

設計：自動式手槍，可裝 7 至 15 發子彈

優點：槍身輕，後坐力低，操控容易，耐用

缺點：因為槍身輕影響發射的準確性，保險掣接近扳機，快速拔槍時容易觸及而走火

資料來源：《蘋果》資料室

真的會影響準確性嗎？真槍我唔知，但係據知大部份o既槍械都走向小巧、輕量化，咁唔通o黎緊所有新槍都係會越來越唔準呢？保險掣接近扳機容易走火？用Duty Hoster咁耐都唔覺喎...從來都係手指問題咋喎....

作者: mike-mike 時間: 21-12-2007 11:44

1. MP5=輕機槍, 其實都已經麻木咗架啦...冇野冇野...
2. 可裝 7 至 15 發子彈 ??點解, 裝少過7發有危險??咁平時射剩6飛時會點架

定係蘋果D哥仔們以為裝唔多過左輪會失去AUTO的優勢??

覺得係呢位仁兄的問題, 因為佢用慣左手...以前又少用AUTO, 重要係SAFETY咁特別的GLOCK...

作者: kagabumi 時間: 21-12-2007 12:40

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原帖由積夫於 2007-12-21 11:30 AM 發表
… 保險掣接近扳機，… 快速拔槍時容易觸及而走火

恕小弟淺陋，GLOCK鎗有保險掣？！

乜GLOCK鎗一向不是無手動保險，而以其板機保險系統取代的嗎？

作者: JASON1988 時間: 21-12-2007 12:45

我想問關wargame咩事

作者: twk810 時間: 21-12-2007 12:51

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原帖由 kagabumi 於 21-12-2007 12:40 發表

恕小弟淺陋，GLOCK鎗有保險掣？！

乜GLOCK鎗一向不是無手動保險，而以其板機保險系統取代的嗎？

glock系trigger分兩parts,拉trigger唔拉埋中間個舊係拉唔的
civiliangunner講槍果頁有講的

作者: 媽屎 時間: 21-12-2007 16:33

yeah~ 比我估中左!

真係glock!

作者: MS 時間: 21-12-2007 18:29 標題: 回覆 #1 積夫的帖子

所有槍械失火會調查人為還是槍有問題?在軍隊失火,在未知理由.不會控告或責難槍手?槍問題包括該槍設計問題還是個別槍支問題!
The Glock family of pistols, once started by famous Glock 17 pistol, was developed by Austrian company Glock Gmbh., previously known for quality knives and entrenching tools. The Glock 17 pistol first appeared at the Austrian Army trials, won it and was adopted by Austrai Army and Police in the early 1980s under the designation of P-80. Since then, the Glock 17 and its descentants become very popular military and law enforcement firearms, being exported in more than 50 countries. Currently, Glocks are chambered in all major pistol calibers, namely 9x17mm Short (.380ACP), 9x19mm Luger, .357SIG, .40SW, 10mm auto and .45ACP. Also, Glocks available in full-size service models, semi-compact models, compact models for concealed/backup carry, and in longslide competition models. Training versions, firing non-lethal practice ammo, also available. Training versions are distinguished from "live" ones by frame colour - blue frame for guns that fire non-lethal ammunition and red frame - for non-firing guns.

All Glocks (except for ones chambered in 9x17 - .380ACP) are recoil operated, locked breech pistols. Glocks feature Browning-type linkless locking system with barrel interlocking with slide via ejection port. All Glocks feature patented "Safe action" striker-fired trigger mechanism. After the each cycle of the slide the striker is set to half-cock position and is safely blocked by internal safety. When shooter pulls the trigger, he disengades the trigger safety first, then cocks the striker to the full-cock and then fires the gun. This results in constant trigger pull (ajustable from 2 to 5.5 kg) and, unlike the traditional DA or DAO pistols, unavailability of the "second strike" option in case of the misfire. All Glocks has no external controls except the trigger and the slide stop (the only different is Glock 18, which has slide mounted fire mode selector).

The .380ACP / 9x17mm Short chambered Glocks (models 25 and 28) differs from the rest of the Glock family by operating by simple blowback principle. These pistols targeted for civilian markets where ownership of the firearms chambered in "military" calibers is prohibited, or for those shooters who can't withstand more severe recoil of the "bigger" calibers.

All Glocks feature polymer frame, steel slides made by precision moulding process and had Tenifer heat-threatment to increase rust and wear risistance. early Glocks had plain grips with slight serrations. Modern variants has finger grooves on the front strap of the grip, and ambidextrous thumb rests. Also, modern versions featured underbarrel acessory rails. Barrels has hexagonal rifling in all calibers. Both front and rear sights are dovetailed and usually had white or luminous inserts. Ajustable sights are available for competition models.

Almost all models had modifications with factory-ported barrels. These models are marked with suffix "C" after the model number, i.e. Glock 17C.

The Glock 17 (and only model 17) could be modified with "amphibious kit" that allows underwater firing (in wery shallow depths, thought). Basically, the underwater shooting itself has wery little effect in real combat, since the effective range is extermely short. The real purpose of that feature is to show the strenght of the gun and to allow safe shoting in severe weather conditions, with possible water in the barrel (in many guns this may result in blown barrel).
睇完上文,Glock17仲可以水底發射添?陸上可以打人,又可以水中打魚,有槍如此,去邊度揾???

[ 本帖最後由 mswong 於 21-12-2007 18:46 編輯 ]

作者: MS 時間: 21-12-2007 19:04

Glock 17我有一支睇門口,十幾年了,幾可靠,但我個人不中意!其實我好多野都
唔中意,例如金髮美女................你呢???

[ 本帖最後由 mswong 於 22-12-2007 03:25 編輯 ]

作者: jwlchan 時間: 21-12-2007 20:03

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原帖由 mswong 於 21-12-2007 11:04 發表
Glock 17我有一支要來睇門口,十幾年了,幾可靠,但我個人不中意!

MS大佬
你都知我最中意Glock, 蘋果對Glock之論點我不同意:
1. Glock十分準, 個人認為比Browning更好
2. Glock不是軍用手槍, 耐用情度比Browning低
3. Glock有保險制? 好耐無用鎗真係唔記得!
4. 我都係左手仔但燒手鎗一定用右手, 因設計上係右手Handleing.
MS 兄請賜教

應做好MP5 IA Drill, 少做Cow Boy 就無咁多問題

[ 本帖最後由 jwlchan 於 21-12-2007 15:55 編輯 ]

作者: MS 時間: 22-12-2007 01:06 標題: 回覆 #9 jwlchan 的帖子

大佬jwichan,在網上講真槍棧抝頸,個故事一開始就話馮xx新調去G4.............其實即係同佢批命!人人都估新仔用新搶..............大家估估吓,對佢唔多公道播!遲些再講喇!我試吓影到張相至吹水.事情在調查中,CGF又禁多人睇,MS衰多口害人害物就唔好喇?你唔知好多人啤實我地咩......................

[ 本帖最後由 mswong 於 22-12-2007 01:15 編輯 ]

作者: jwlchan 時間: 22-12-2007 01:29

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原帖由 mswong 於 21-12-2007 17:06 發表
大佬jwichan,在網上講真槍棧抝頸,個故事一開始就話馮xx新調去G4.............其實即係同佢批命!人人都估新仔用新搶..............大家估估吓,對佢唔多公道播!遲些再講喇!我試吓影到張相至吹水 ...

MS大佬教鎗多年係唔同.....但Weapon handleing好, 走火可能性就會少. 記得在Jungle Warfare Training我地要閉眼Weapon Cleaning及打Jungle Lane? 都未試有事.
More Dry Practice!
幾時帶我燒鎗!!!!

作者: MS 時間: 22-12-2007 01:34 標題: 回覆 #1 積夫的帖子

其實話G4訓練中失火!大家都明,又要話新調到...............有時新聞工作者要小心用詞?

作者: 積夫 時間: 22-12-2007 03:42 標題: 回覆 #12 mswong 的帖子

mswong兄可能離港已久，不知道香港的「新聞工作者」已今非昔比，與其稱他們為「新聞工作者」，倒不如稱他們為「創作人」更為貼切。

作者: jwlchan 時間: 22-12-2007 03:53

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原帖由積夫於 21-12-2007 19:42 發表
mswong兄可能離港已久，不知道香港的「新聞工作者」已今非昔比，與其稱他們為「新聞工作者」，倒不如稱他們為「創作人」更為貼切。

I am sorry cannot write Chinese in this laptop. So do you think Glock is a good gun or not? I personally love it!

New Reporter!!!!! they all the same in the world.....no comment!

[ 本帖最後由 jwlchan 於 21-12-2007 19:55 編輯 ]

作者: 積夫 時間: 22-12-2007 04:07 標題: 回覆 #14 jwlchan 的帖子

I think Glock is a good gun, simple is the best!

(I am a BB gun player only, but I really love it)

作者: jwlchan 時間: 22-12-2007 05:22

I agree that Glock is a good gun. BB gun is still a gun...at least it looks the same. Do you do know Glock is also a plastic gun.

作者: Paul 時間: 22-12-2007 10:52

Glock 17 曲尺手槍

作者: Gabriel2342 時間: 22-12-2007 14:36

聽聞Glock既手握位角度並不合乎人工力學, 太直,當遇上緊急情況舉槍,槍咀係會向上偏差, 影響命中率,危害生命安全.
所以用Glock要熟練,才可以用得好,各種情況都能命中目標,美國警察就係咁

作者: 4jai 時間: 22-12-2007 18:12

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原帖由 mswong 於 21-12-2007 19:04 發表

Glock 17我有一支睇門口,十幾年了,幾可靠,但我個人不中意!其實我好多野都
唔中意 ...

MS兄我有一個小問題
你把GLOCK 17個滑架係膠黎架呵??
還是金屬??

作者: MS 時間: 22-12-2007 19:32 標題: 回覆 #19 wonglk 的帖子

*更正Slide係金屬,槍本身body 才是膠.

[ 本帖最後由 mswong 於 22-12-2007 20:23 編輯 ]

作者: gtoray 時間: 22-12-2007 19:46

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原帖由 mswong 於 22-12-2007 19:32 發表
膠

作者: MS 時間: 22-12-2007 19:54 標題: 回覆 #18 surefire0828 的帖子

這一支H&KP7M13......高度和長度一樣.............但在美國好多州警都用佢!

[ 本帖最後由 mswong 於 22-12-2007 20:25 編輯 ]

作者: MS 時間: 22-12-2007 20:01 標題: 回覆 #21 gtoray 的帖子

無相睇........都係甩唔到身............請稍侯!

作者: olka 時間: 22-12-2007 20:25

[quote]原帖由 gtoray 於 22-12-2007 19:46 發表

作者: gtoray 時間: 22-12-2007 20:39

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原帖由 olka 於 22-12-2007 20:25 發表

據聞頭批是膠滑洵偺鉡袪}當時的Ｘ光機和探測技術（陶"池"滑架都係），怕會成為恐怖分子至愛，於是改用鋼,膠滑架版是罕有極品。

頭批不就是似膠的陶瓷滑架麼?

作者: olka 時間: 22-12-2007 20:44

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原帖由 gtoray 於 22-12-2007 20:39 發表

頭批不就是似膠的陶瓷滑架麼?

物料不太確定，看書是陶瓷，但沒有機會接觸過，期待有珍貴圖片。

作者: 4jai 時間: 22-12-2007 21:03

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原帖由 olka 於 22-12-2007 20:44 發表

物料不太確定，看書是陶瓷，但沒有機會接觸過，期待有珍貴圖片。

因為我聽朋友講,話係膠架
之後我睇返旁邊軍火庫,話膠架唔耐用,用返金架
所以我就睇好呢次機會問ms兄,ms兄有真槍係手麻

作者: MS 時間: 23-12-2007 00:51 標題: 回覆 #25 gtoray 的帖子

我果支一定唔係頭果批!Glock話加左一些不必要金屬落支槍度,是應某部門要求!

作者: MS 時間: 23-12-2007 00:57 標題: 回覆 #26 olka 的帖子

希望大,失望大!我話張相你地睇吓咋!唔包好睇嫁?

作者: MS 時間: 23-12-2007 01:28 標題: 回覆 #29 mswong 的帖子

lee張相要求二叔公個女拍嫁!唔好唔收貨!槍架是膠,但slide是金屬,

[ 本帖最後由 mswong 於 23-12-2007 01:34 編輯 ]

作者: Gabriel2342 時間: 23-12-2007 14:49

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原帖由 mswong 於 22-12-2007 19:54 發表

這一支H&KP7M13......高度和長度一樣.............但在美國好多州警都用佢!

use .40...?...How many rounds?

作者: MS 時間: 23-12-2007 19:44 標題: 回覆 #31 surefire0828 的帖子

10+1

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作者: sunny 時間: 24-12-2007 01:17

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原帖由 jwlchan 於 21-12-2007 20:03 發表

MS大佬
你都知我最中意Glock, 蘋果對Glock之論點我不同意:
1. Glock十分準, 個人認為比Browning更好
2. Glock不是軍用手槍, 耐用情度比Browning低
3. Glock有保險制? 好耐無用鎗真係唔記得!
4. 我都係 ...

Glock is a 軍用手槍

作者: jwlchan 時間: 24-12-2007 03:04

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原帖由 sunny 於 23-12-2007 17:17 發表

Glock is a 軍用手槍

小弟只曾在英國軍隊服役22年, 並不知其他軍隊手鎗, 但英軍並無用Glock...One simply reason...try to fire 100 rounds with Browning and a Glock you will know the reason.

作者: MS 時間: 24-12-2007 03:32 標題: 回覆 #37 jwlchan 的帖子

其實網上講真槍?Glock邊個國家用???

[ 本帖最後由 mswong 於 24-12-2007 03:40 編輯 ]

作者: MS 時間: 24-12-2007 03:35 標題: 回覆 #36 sunny 的帖子

恕學淺未見過有保險制之Glock(真槍)???

作者: jwlchan 時間: 24-12-2007 06:02

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原帖由 mswong 於 23-12-2007 19:35 發表
恕學淺未見過有保險制之Glock(真槍)???

Dear MS my brother

I also only saw “BB” Glock got safety catch but never see any real gun got safety catch. We must be old and not catch up with the new knowledge!

jwlchan

作者: Paul 時間: 24-12-2007 11:20

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原帖由 mswong 於 24-12-2007 03:32 發表
其實網上講真槍?Glock邊個國家用???

奧地利及一D北歐等國(因為在冬天非金鐲把手好用D)

作者: ZaMaR 時間: 24-12-2007 12:58

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原帖由 jwlchan 於 24-12-2007 06:02 發表

Dear MS my brother

I also only saw “BB” Glock got safety catch but never see any real gun got safety catch. We must be old and not catch up with the new knowledge!

jwlchan

我未見過汽槍有Glock有safety catch,請問係邊枝有?

作者: jwlchan 時間: 24-12-2007 18:57

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原帖由 ZaMaR 於 24-12-2007 04:58 發表

我未見過汽槍有Glock有safety catch,請問係邊枝有?

http://www.justpistols.co.uk/hfc_g17.htm

首先說明, 我不大清楚BB Gun因未玩過, 真槍玩過二十幾年....如要知更多Glock BB Gun Safety Catch, 可Google查看, 我就睇到幾枝, 上面條link就是其一

作者: jwlchan 時間: 24-12-2007 22:13

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原帖由 Paul 於 24-12-2007 03:20 發表

奧地利及一D北歐等國(因為在冬天非金鐲把手好用D)

Good luck to those countries.....as I said try to fire 100 rounds with a Glock you will know why most of the countries do not use Glock as military weapon.

Answer: Not a heavily duty hand gun.

However, I have to say that Glock is good hand gun for general use or Police duty.

MSWong is right this is difficult to talk about weapon over the website.

作者: MS 時間: 24-12-2007 23:54 標題: 回覆 #41 Paul 的帖子

請問何國家軍用Glock手槍?

[ 本帖最後由 mswong 於 24-12-2007 23:56 編輯 ]

作者: MS 時間: 25-12-2007 00:07 標題: 回覆 #41 Paul 的帖子

在英國晚上户外唔穿手套都凍到叫救命,在此天氣所有金屬都唔摸得喇?

作者: Paul 時間: 25-12-2007 01:58

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原帖由 mswong 於 24-12-2007 23:54 發表
請問何國家軍用Glock手槍?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glock_17

The Glock 17 appeared in the early 1980s for the Austrian Army weapons trials. It entered service under the designation Pistole 80 (Pi80). In 1988, it entered service in the Swedish Army under the designation Pistol 88. It is also used by the Norwegian Army

作者: WAIKO01 時間: 26-12-2007 04:23

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原帖由 jwlchan 於 24-12-2007 03:04 發表

小弟只曾在英國軍隊服役22年, 並不知其他軍隊手鎗, 但英軍並無用Glock...One simply reason...try to fire 100 rounds with Browning and a Glock you will know the reason.

無知一問,原因是什麼?

作者: WAIKO01 時間: 26-12-2007 04:39

個人覺得這次事件的原因,可能和這個有關.

作者: jwlchan 時間: 26-12-2007 05:38

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原帖由 WAIKO01 於 25-12-2007 20:23 發表

無知一問,原因是什麼?

Please do not say that.....

The reason is that Glock is not a heavily duty hand gun.

However, I have to say that Glock is good hand gun for general use or Police duty.

MSWong is right this is difficult to talk about weapon over the website. I said this already on my last post.

作者: WAIKO01 時間: 26-12-2007 14:16

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原帖由 jwlchan 於 26-12-2007 05:38 發表

Please do not say that.....

The reason is that Glock is not a heavily duty hand gun.

However, I have to say that Glock is good hand gun for general use or Police duty.

MSWong is right this is difficult to talk about weapon over the website. I said this already on my last post.

明白

,即是說glock是一把好的民用手槍,而未必是一把好的軍用手槍.

作者: 9x19 時間: 26-12-2007 16:12

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原帖由 Paul 於 25-12-2007 01:58 發表

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glock_17

The Glock 17 appeared in the early 1980s for the Austrian Army weapons trials. It entered service under the designation Pistole 80 (Pi80). In 1988, it ...

Israeli(IDF) used a lot of Glock17/19 as well.

作者: jwlchan 時間: 27-12-2007 00:17

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原帖由 WAIKO01 於 26-12-2007 06:16 發表

明白 ,即是說glock是一把好的民用手槍,而未必是一把好的軍用手槍.

我就係咁想, 但唔識寫出, 多謝代言

作者: WAIKO01 時間: 27-12-2007 00:37

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原帖由 jwlchan 於 27-12-2007 00:17 發表

我就係咁想, 但唔識寫出, 多謝代言

不用客氣

,不經你這麼一說,我也沒發現原來裝備GLOCK的多是警察單位或一些非軍事作戰為主的部門.

作者: jwlchan 時間: 27-12-2007 03:54

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原帖由 WAIKO01 於 26-12-2007 16:37 發表

不用客氣 ,不經你這麼一說,我也沒發現原來裝備GLOCK的多是警察單位或一些非軍事作戰為主的部門.

You got the point again! This is what I want to say as well! Many thanks for talking for me again.

作者: Kane 時間: 27-12-2007 04:12

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原帖由 WAIKO01 於 26-12-2007 04:39 發表
個人覺得這次事件的原因,可能和這個有關.

p226 好似無得lock wo

作者: auxair 時間: 27-12-2007 17:57

"No manual safety catch"

The same can be said of Hong Kong Police's new service pistol for detectives

SIG Sauer P250 DCc - DAO, 9mm, with Winchester 125 grain STHP as issued service rounds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpvv6W6lRY0&feature=related

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作者: jwlchan 時間: 27-12-2007 23:40

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原帖由 auxair 於 27-12-2007 09:57 發表
"No manual safety catch"

The same can be said of Hong Kong Police's new service pistol for detectives

SIG Sauer P250 DCc - DAO, 9mm, with Winchester 125 grain STHP as issued servi ...

Good luck to the Hong Kong Police with the new pistol. I hope they clearly understand what is loaded, unload and all necessary safety handling skills. If not….

作者: auxair 時間: 27-12-2007 23:48

one more video
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=_MqnZqVdiLs&NR=1

作者: WAIKO01 時間: 29-12-2007 04:45

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原帖由 Kane 於 27-12-2007 04:12 發表

p226 好似無得lock wo

我覺得很可能是,射手在未射擊前已經把手指放到板機上.

作者: WAIKO01 時間: 29-12-2007 04:53

其實GLOCK不能成為一枝好的軍用手槍的原因是?不耐操?射擊機構過於煩瑣,不利反應?

作者: jwlchan 時間: 29-12-2007 07:41

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原帖由 WAIKO01 於 28-12-2007 20:53 發表
其實GLOCK不能成為一枝好的軍用手槍的原因是?不耐操?射擊機構過於煩瑣,不利反應?

Glock is good gun but not for heavily duty. It would not be good to use for a long time battle condition.
I am not a weapon expert but I know few forces had carried out a test in Glock and Browning. They still choose Browning and it must be a reason!
This is why most of the countries choose to use Browning but not Glock. May be some countries less be in battle choose to use Glock as this is a good gun. But personnel if I can have choose in battle I will choose Browning.

作者: spike.rifle 時間: 30-12-2007 11:00

下?glock 17有保險制???:x :x
7-15發

作者: momo 時間: 1-1-2008 23:00 標題: Glock 有長處有短處

問題就是你甚麼使用.

作者: Xm177+M9 時間: 2-1-2008 14:04

http://www.glock.com/english/index_download.htm
好勁= =
用KEY 開...........

作者: 艾魂 時間: 2-1-2008 23:40

用key來開鎖的GLOCK已經不是什麼新鮮事了

本來就是讓每家每戶都有一把的打算才會這樣做啦

作者: Henry 時間: 30-1-2008 10:16

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原帖由 jwlchan 於 26-12-2007 05:38 發表

The reason is that Glock is not a heavily duty hand gun.

However, I have to say that Glock is good hand gun for general use or Police duty.

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原帖由 jwlchan 於 29-12-2007 07:41 發表

Glock is good gun but not for heavily duty. It would not be good to use for a long time battle condition.
I am not a weapon expert but I know few forces had carried out a test in Glock and B ...

Alright guys... the Glock is not a heavy duty pistol? I've shot a lot, and i've seen a lot, I personally prefer 1911's and Sig P225's(yes, I like 225's over 226's because it's slimmer and lighter for concealed carry)

Though I prefer 1911 pistols and Sig's, I will never hesitate, that Glocks are by far some of the toughest pistols around.

1. they have all but a few moving pieces in the frame which is synthetic(yes, you can call it "plastic" if you want)
2. their frames have all but a few parts.
3. please refer to a thread I had posted earlier: http://www.civiliangunner.com/cg ... 3888&highlight=

i've seen similar done to 1911's, sig's and glocks. they all worked just fine.

so what am I saying? Glocks are good guns, they're more of a tool than a gun to me. A 1911 is a beautiful weapon, while a Glock is a brick that shoots bullets. No cuts, no frills, no bs, just a pistol that will shoot every single time you pull it's trigger.

lots of people accidentally shoot themselves while disassembling the glock b/c you need to pull the trigger before you take the slide off, that's why they accidentally shoot themselves

lots of people accidentally shoot others, that's because they have bad trigger discipline and keep on putting their bloody trigger finger on the trigger when they walk around or are at home. that's how people get killed...

A Glock will not fire if you throw it down from a building, it won't fire if you run it over with a 2 ton truck, it just simply won't shoot UNLESS you pull the trigger. People just always blame it on the pistol because they don't like being called the dumbass for pulling the trigger and shooting themselves.

i'm sick of people blaming the pistol they shot themselves with!

Glocks, I repeat, are some of the TOUGHEST pistols in the world.

作者: Henry 時間: 30-1-2008 10:23

FYI, the site I linked to my last post, this is what the guy did to the Glock:

Buried it in sand, soil, synthetic microbeads
soaked in salt water
dragged behind a car
thrown out of a helicopter
SHOT AT IT WITH A .22 PISTOL

he shot it after every single thing he did to it...
what happened?
It shot every single time

don't tell me Glocks won't work.

作者: belldanndy 時間: 30-1-2008 11:55

After watching your old post, it's just amazing that the gun can still fire!!

I love the Glock more than ever!!

Thanks for your sharing!!

作者: Paul 時間: 30-1-2008 12:34

其實槍呢D野好講射手本身的感覺,

我有內地朋友會話黑星好好打, 但也有港澳的朋友話黑星好難打

作者: jwlchan 時間: 30-1-2008 18:50

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原帖由 Paul 於 30-1-2008 04:34 發表
其實槍呢D野好講射手本身的感覺,

我有內地朋友會話黑星好好打, 但也有港澳的朋友話黑星好難打

I never say Glock is NOT a good weapon....I just said that it is not a good military hand gun and Glock is not a heavy duty pistol. I was using an example in between Browning and Glock to fire few hundred rounds and you could see the difference.

I did say that Glock is a good hand gun but not good for Military duty. Now, after left the service for 15 years my knowledge may be out of date anyway.

This is totally my point of view and my experince. If anyone disagree that is fine for me.

You are right it could be shooter's choose.

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作者: MS 時間: 31-1-2008 22:24 標題: 回覆 #71 jwlchan 的帖子

我有得揀都唔用Glock!請不要問!私人理由?其實過去經驗,你老細俾セ你用セ囉!你有無見到d CID話我中意セ,又唔中意物???

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