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作者: Ben_9413 時間: 1-9-2017 19:43 標題: P320 Carbine Kit

好正啊

o甘樣用個chassis好有型啊

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作者: ayaka 時間: 1-9-2017 20:09

好型！！
p320 個serial no. 係chassis 到
咁換個carbine kit+arm brace 唔洗搞手續，應該會好受美國歡迎

作者: Lolanto 時間: 1-9-2017 20:25

型吖

作者: olw0978 時間: 1-9-2017 20:34

Glock 以外的好選擇

作者: BLSK 時間: 1-9-2017 20:53 標題: 回覆 2# 的帖子

對！越受歡迎就越大機會有玩具

但係玩具做唔做到模組化系統就不得而知

不過其實都好方便
MPX隻托

呢支跌都唔驚走火啦掛

作者: gtoray 時間: 1-9-2017 23:27

型到核爆

作者: kornhill401 時間: 4-9-2017 13:33

都幾有創意,加到滅音器仲正.

Thx for sharing

作者: Ben_9413 時間: 2-2-2018 11:48

SOurce: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/02/01/usw-320/

正點

又是利用320底盤構造的優勢, 推出整個cabine lower frame

優點是不用擔心kit體會鬆動, 及更小更輕便

精悍!

B&T USW-320

"Frame with Stock"

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作者: rho837 時間: 2-2-2018 19:21

如果個電筒連埋支棍仔就Perfect!

作者: Kwind 時間: 2-2-2018 22:02

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原帖由 Ben_9413 於 2-2-2018 11:48 發表
SOurce: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/02/01/usw-320/

正點

又是利用320底盤構造的優勢, 推出整個cabine lower frame

優點是不用擔心kit體會鬆動, 及更小更輕便

精悍!

B&T USW-320 ...

呢套又幾正斗喎...夠晒輕便

作者: olw0978 時間: 2-2-2018 23:42 標題: 回覆 10# 的帖子

我倒覺得 8樓呢套只係得個樣，一點也不實用，因為好難 grip 個穩枝槍，反而頂樓的設計更可取

作者: AICSman 時間: 3-2-2018 08:33

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原帖由 ayaka 於 1-9-2017 20:09 發表
好型！！
p320 個serial no. 係chassis 到
咁換個carbine kit+arm brace 唔洗搞手續，應該會好受美國歡迎

額外需要註冊申請書提交給ATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (US Department of Justice))

因為槍將被分類 as NFA Item (machine guns, short-barreled rifles (SBR), short-barreled shotguns (SBS)

額外$200 + 至少 6 months 處理時間

沒註冊, 被警察足到... 好好好好好能大鍋

[ 本帖最後由 AICSman 於 3-2-2018 08:38 編輯 ]

作者: olw0978 時間: 3-2-2018 09:25

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原帖由 AICSman 於 3-2-2018 08:33 發表

額外需要註冊申請書提交給ATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (US Department of Justice))

因為槍將被分類 as NFA Item (machine guns, short-barreled rifles (SBR), short-barrele ...

請教師兄，是否任何一枝普通手槍(比如 Glock)裝入任何 carbine kit(比如 CAA 產品)後，都會被定義為 SBR?

作者: Ben_9413 時間: 3-2-2018 09:40

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原帖由 AICSman 於 2018-2-3 08:33 發表

額外需要註冊申請書提交給ATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (US Department of Justice))

因為槍將被分類 as NFA Item (machine guns, short-barreled rifles (SBR), short-barrele ...

Arm brace + pistol, 無全自動功能, 不算"rifle", 好似o吾使o咼....

作者: laiwangkai 時間: 3-2-2018 09:57 標題: 回覆 12# 的帖子

唔洗6個月既

我FD第一次都係4個幾月
第二次就好快

作者: kornhill401 時間: 3-2-2018 12:46

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原帖由 AICSman 於 3-2-2018 08:33 發表

額外需要註冊申請書提交給ATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (US Department of Justice))

因為槍將被分類 as NFA Item (machine guns, short-barreled rifles (SBR), short-barrele ...

請教C Hing,

咁..Beretta 93R和Glock 18c.
在美國是否不容許個人擁有呢?

Thx for sharing.

[ 本帖最後由 kornhill401 於 3-2-2018 12:48 編輯 ]

作者: AICSman 時間: 4-2-2018 07:55

Arm brace is like loopholes of the laws. Anything short barrel and have stock to shoulder during firing, most likely classified NFA items. Arm brace is not a device can shoulder it. In some states, if you shoulder your arm brace that will turn your pistol rifle into short barrel rifle, gun laws in US is very complicated.

作者: Ben_9413 時間: 4-2-2018 08:27

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原帖由 AICSman 於 2018-2-4 07:55 發表
Arm brace is like loopholes of the laws. Anything short barrel and have stock to shoulder during firing, most likely classified NFA items. Arm brace is not a device can shoulder it. In some states, if ...

I learnt that arm braces can be shouldered these days without ATF objection...

But firearms with fixed stock (such as the new 320 B&T frame embedded folding stick), and barrel lengths less than 16 inches are definitely no go and requires paperwork

US gun laws...

作者: olw0978 時間: 4-2-2018 08:28

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原帖由 AICSman 於 4-2-2018 07:55 發表
Arm brace is like loopholes of the laws. Anything short barrel and have stock to shoulder during firing, most likely classified NFA items. Arm brace is not a device can shoulder it. In some states, if ...

I have better understanding now. Thank you for your explanations.

作者: AICSman 時間: 4-2-2018 09:08

Is my mistake that P320 should be ok without paperwork as short barrel rifle. I didn’t realize it was an arm brace from the picture. My bad haha.

Government make new laws, manufacture make new tool to go around the laws. A lot of time things got stuck in grey area. You can say is legal , but ATF can still raid your house and lock you up for a days. Most of the time they won’t do that, but shit can happen any days.

作者: Ben_9413 時間: 4-2-2018 09:59

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原帖由 AICSman 於 2018-2-4 09:08 發表
Is my mistake that P320 should be ok without paperwork as short barrel rifle. I didn’t realize it was an arm brace from the picture. My bad haha.

Government make new laws, manufacture make new to ...

Nevermind that, even the ATF would change their stance on thing these days. Previously shouldering an arm brace would be prohibited, now its not. The bump fire stock was all good with the ATF before the LasVegas shooting, but look at where it's heading now

Like the recent Mossberg "shockwave", what a finger right into the face of the ATF

[ 本帖最後由 Ben_9413 於 4-2-2018 10:00 編輯 ]

作者: Ben_9413 時間: 4-2-2018 10:03

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原帖由 kornhill401 於 2018-2-3 12:46 發表

請教C Hing, 咁..Beretta 93R和Glock 18c.
在美國是否不容許個人擁有呢? Thx for sharing.

全自動武器, 兜二十個彎後都可以"個人"擁有, 不過要大量手續o拉

作者: kornhill401 時間: 4-2-2018 12:36

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原帖由 Ben_9413 於 4-2-2018 10:03 發表

全自動武器, 兜二十個彎後都可以"個人"擁有, 不過要大量手續o拉

謝謝Ben C Hing給我解開疑惑,

好采香港仲可以玩到這種玩具槍

作者: 阿堅 時間: 4-2-2018 12:56

簡單D講
槍管短過16” 但有槍托，不論固定或摺疊都要申請為SBR（短管步槍）或SBS（短管散彈槍）
無槍托有前棍仔就 AOW (any other weapon)
1986年之前生産既自動武器可以自由合法轉讓（好似要睇埋個洲比唔比私人擁有自動武器先
86之後生產就要有class3類牌照
消聲器亦要另外比錢
爆炸物品，例如40mm榴彈就每發比錢
其他有請各位補充

[ 本帖最後由阿堅於 4-2-2018 12:58 編輯 ]

作者: pbay 時間: 5-2-2018 10:55

個design真係好型

但GBB P320係咪真係做到模組化 ?

作者: Ben_9413 時間: 5-2-2018 11:05

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原帖由 pbay 於 2018-2-5 10:55 發表
個design真係好型
但GBB P320係咪真係做到模組化 ?

理論上擊鎚組同扳機組, 加個箍,一體化o左兩組o野, 就得...

個人認為 GBB 如果不是追求真內構, 其實意義不大, 仲可能多隻香爐多隻...

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