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作者: MS 時間: 2-2-2008 01:32 標題: H&K P7 M13

買自80s香港4千元,老婆話應該買架錄影機.......又係四千蚊!結果............兩樣都買埋???

作者: adrianyahk 時間: 2-2-2008 01:35

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原帖由 mswong 於 2-2-2008 01:32 發表

買自80s香港4千元,老婆話應該買架錄影機.......又係四千蚊!結果............兩樣都買埋???

呢支野真係好鬼性感....如果有出玩具就好了.

作者: learngod86 時間: 2-2-2008 02:05

MGC and mauri also have ar.....if talking "toys"....

yea....very nice gun.......

作者: MS 時間: 2-2-2008 02:52 標題: 回覆 #2 adrianyahk 的帖子

當然有

作者: Henry 時間: 2-2-2008 06:28

I like P7's a lot, the one I shot was very accurate.
Aren't they gas pistols?

作者: jwlchan 時間: 2-2-2008 08:43

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原帖由 Henry 於 1-2-2008 22:28 發表
I like P7's a lot, the one I shot was very accurate.
Aren't they gas pistols?

Hey, Henry! MSWong is a Arms Dealer in the UK and he DO NOT sell gas pistols......

作者: mike-mike 時間: 2-2-2008 10:21

M猪詩的GAS BLOWBACK一早絕版, 有錢都未必買到...(但2手都重算唔係太貴, 只係少)
馬記攞黎擺下都OK...
80年代我睇美國槍書講, 一枝原裝HK P7要成千蚊美金, 4000算好平WOR!!

作者: Paul 時間: 2-2-2008 12:50

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原帖由 jwlchan 於 2-2-2008 08:43 發表

Hey, Henry! MSWong is a Arms Dealer in the UK and he DO NOT sell gas pistols......

我想他的意思是...果支P7係咪氣動回鏜

或我在CGF看到的.....斯延遲反衝運作機構(Gas-retarded Blowback Operating Machanism)

[ 本帖最後由 Paul 於 2-2-2008 12:52 編輯 ]

作者: Henry 時間: 2-2-2008 14:36

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原帖由 jwlchan 於 2-2-2008 08:43 發表

Hey, Henry! MSWong is a Arms Dealer in the UK and he DO NOT sell gas pistols......

Gas, not as green gas, but gas from the bullet facilitates the recoil of the slide and cycles a new shot.

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The P7 is a semi-automatic, blowback operated firearm. It features a gas-delayed blowback system modeled on the Swiss W+F 47 pistol prototype...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_P7

作者: jwlchan 時間: 3-2-2008 04:29

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原帖?Henry 於 2-2-2008 06:36 發表

Gas, not as green gas, but gas from the bullet facilitates the recoil of the slide and cycles a new shot.

As I only did 22 years short time service in the British Armed Forces and have left many years ago so my knowledge would be out of day.

At least, not as good as people just considered to join the service after fisished the education. Recoil system could not be stated as "gas pistols" as this is not the right wording.

[ 本帖最後由 jwlchan 於 2-2-2008 23:17 編輯 ]

作者: Henry 時間: 3-2-2008 13:57

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原帖由 jwlchan 於 3-2-2008 04:29 發表

Recoil system could not be stated as "gas pistols" as this is not the right wording.

ugh.. alright, fine, so it's not entirely a traditional direct gas/ short/long stroke piston design. However the pistol is still facilitates a gas regulated system and not a blowback recoil system:

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It features a gas-delayed blowback system modeled on the Swiss W+F 47 pistol prototype, which uses gas pressure of the ignited cartridge that is fed through a small vent in the barrel (just in front of the chamber) to retard the rearward motion of the slide by means of a piston contained inside a cylinder located beneath the barrel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_P7

so there you go.

作者: Henry 時間: 3-2-2008 14:05

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原帖由 Henry 於 2-2-2008 14:36 發表

Gas, not as green gas, but gas from the bullet facilitates the recoil of the slide and cycles a new shot.

and here's a diagram to better state my point.

作者: hwtang 時間: 3-2-2008 16:35

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原帖由 Henry 於 3-2-2008 14:05 發表

and here's a diagram to better state my point.

rather than facilitating the recoil, according to the diagram and also the structure,
it looks like the gas mainly used to counter act the small recoil spring
thus causing a "time delay blow back" after the bullet is out of the barrel.

作者: MS 時間: 3-2-2008 17:36 標題: 回覆 #9 Henry 的帖子

兩位大佬:大佬Chan之Gas不同Henny大佬的Gas,所以我講手氣槍,強調"痰罐仔"亦非存心侮辱打氣槍d朋友............所以兩位都Arm.

[ 本帖最後由 mswong 於 3-2-2008 17:38 編輯 ]

作者: MS 時間: 3-2-2008 17:44 標題: 回覆 #13 hwtang 的帖子

大佬Tang:燒P7打得幾十槍食指黑晒,仲有熱氣衝出之感覺,可惜停了產!是支好槍因管長4"險些出不到牌!

這個槍袋是朋友特為P7而造.................當緊握Pistol Grip,撞針上升會頂開槍袋扣..............簡直手工一流,可惜俾左個CIA的朋友.

[ 本帖最後由 mswong 於 3-2-2008 18:19 編輯 ]

作者: hwtang 時間: 3-2-2008 20:24

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原帖由 mswong 於 3-2-2008 17:36 發表
兩位大佬:大佬Chan之Gas不同Henny大佬的Gas,所以我講手氣槍,強調"痰罐仔"亦非存心侮辱打氣槍d朋友............所以兩位都Arm.

Ms sir.... 我樓上個reply唔係講緊痰罐仔既gas ....係估緊個gas hole同個delay blow back的work =.=

作者: hwtang 時間: 3-2-2008 20:26

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原帖由 mswong 於 3-2-2008 17:44 發表
大佬Tang:燒P7打得幾十槍食指黑晒,仲有熱氣衝出之感覺,可惜停了產!是支好槍因管長4"險些出不到牌!

這個槍袋是朋友特為P7而造......... ...

en...我諗緊第日打Free pistol X 60shoots (.22lr) 同 standard pistols 30 + 30 時... 我隻手一定起"枕"

作者: hwtang 時間: 3-2-2008 20:37

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原帖由 mswong 於 3-2-2008 17:36 發表
兩位大佬:大佬Chan之Gas不同Henny大佬的Gas,所以我講手氣槍,強調"痰罐仔"亦非存心侮辱打氣槍d朋友............所以兩位都Arm.

對...MS SIR ...我窮...

唔係一早去jor大帽山打飛靶..........

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