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作者: derp 時間: 2-1-2019 13:57 標題: 關於1911 問題

想請問下有燒開1911 既師兄, 前幾日有幸人生中第一次燒1911 遇到兩個問題:

1. 打左大約50 飛到, 我開槍隻手既虎口位有輕微燒傷(?) / 瘀傷, 打個陣唔覺, 係後來先見到有少少瘀血. 咁樣係咪正常, 定係我隻手擺得太高? 我上過外國網搵, 似乎見唔到有人有類似問題?

2. 我打個陣, 個GROUPING 係好穩定咁去左目標左手邊(我右手開槍). 網上1911 用家話係開槍手指擺得太入, 同埋因為45 出速比較慢, 手指個動作會影響到子彈出槍時個指向. 但係我個人覺得可能係因為個握把比較大, 所以我要D 手指移前D 先可以握得實D 咁 (唔知我有無理解錯?). 有無訓練補救方法?

唔該晒.

作者: Sineta 時間: 2-1-2019 16:20

我淨係試玩過infinity 2011又唔覺有禁情況，可能雙列式粗身D力唔會太集中一點，另外grouping就覺得好靚15米大約A5紙集彈，不過可能支槍太污糟成日Jam彈、冇引

作者: derp 時間: 2-1-2019 17:03 標題: 回覆 2# 的帖子

1911 燒傷/瘀傷 (我一陣UPLOAD 圖, 其實我都唔肯定係乜黎) 唯一我見到有類似情況既係係非常強烈訓練既時候, Eric Haney, Inside Delta Force: The Real Story of America's Elite Military Unit (2003) p139-140

"We did it over and over and over. Soon the fun went out of it, and it became work. And about that time, it became painful. The .45 is a powerful pistol with sharp recoil, and the tight grip we used meant we absorbed the full force of the recoil in our hands and arms.

Soon like everyone else, I had a large, painful blister in the web of my thumb from the pounding of the gun in my hand.[...] After a while, the blister turned into a big callus that stayed on my hand for the next eight years."

so.... idk.

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作者: derp 時間: 2-1-2019 17:05

呢個.

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作者: NCP013 時間: 2-1-2019 17:07

hammer bite?

作者: derp 時間: 2-1-2019 17:08 標題: 回覆 5# 的帖子

ooooooooooooooooooh..... 原來如此.

搵到料了. 唔該晒師兄.

至於grouping 個問題... 有無得搞?

[ 本帖最後由 derp 於 2-1-2019 17:17 編輯 ]

作者: screwupman2022 時間: 2-1-2019 21:07

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原帖由 derp 於 2-1-2019 13:57 發表

2. 我打個陣, 個GROUPING 係好穩定咁去左目標左手邊(我右手開槍). 網上1911 用家話係開槍手指擺得太入, 同埋因為45 出速比較慢, 手指個動作會影響到子彈出槍時個指向.

用指腹中央位置按壓扳機將扳機直線向後拉
重點是按壓扳機的拖壓方向

作者: Ben_9413 時間: 2-1-2019 21:31

Hammer bite x2

Were you shooting really old 1911?

作者: derp 時間: 2-1-2019 22:43

係. 不過係邊度出我就無留意啦. 只係佢D 件可能有D 舊, 雖然佢LUB 得好好都係STOVEPIPE JAM 左兩三次, 同埋佢D 夾有D 舊, 塊底片彎彎地, 有時頂唔到個滑架.

作者: derp 時間: 2-1-2019 22:44 標題: 回覆 7# 的帖子

係LOR, 我都見過類似既野. 唔知呢, 我用AIRSOFT 就無呢個問題. 但係可能用真鐵個問題會放大左啦. 好, 等我留意下先.

作者: Ben_9413 時間: 2-1-2019 23:41

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原帖由 derp 於 2019-1-2 22:43 發表
係. 不過係邊度出我就無留意啦. 只係佢D 件可能有D 舊, 雖然佢LUB 得好好都係STOVEPIPE JAM 左兩三次, 同埋佢D 夾有D 舊, 塊底片彎彎地, 有時頂唔到個滑架.

But then original 1911s are well known for being not so reliable... Just ask the Glock fanboys they will tell you all about it

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作者: screwupman2022 時間: 3-1-2019 00:17

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原帖由 Ben_9413 於 2-1-2019 23:41 發表

But then original 1911s are well known for being not so reliable... Just ask the Glock fanboys they will tell you all about it

點樣not so reliable法，願聞其詳

作者: kornhill401 時間: 6-1-2019 12:30

下次貼定塊藥水膠布,會唔會好D呢?

作者: AICSman 時間: 9-1-2019 01:43

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原帖由 screwupman2022 於 3-1-2019 00:17 發表

點樣not so reliable法，願聞其詳

one reason is the older 1911 internal part are cast metal. it requires experienced gunsmith hand sanding and polishing. The new 1911 most part are CNC cutting now.

作者: screwupman2022 時間: 17-1-2019 21:12

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原帖由 AICSman 於 9-1-2019 01:43 發表

one reason is the older 1911 internal part are cast metal. it requires experienced gunsmith hand sanding and polishing. The new 1911 most part are CNC cutting now.

用電腦入program控制machining(CNC)是不是近廿年才普及在金屬品製造業...咁以前尤其注重工藝，工匠應該要好注重跟足圖紙內標明的公差限制...

作者: AICSman 時間: 19-1-2019 00:20

一致好嘅1911,最緊要係fitting要緊同smooth. Trigger 一定要清脆又唔可以過重 , 1911 trigger 冇彈弓, 係用1片內行人叫3finger鐵片,同一粒叫sear嘅組合以控制trigger. 就係以上依兩點都要有好嘅手槍工匠Polish 同cutting sear angle. 如果sear angle cut得唔好把手槍有可能會響唔小心嘅情況下走火同埋連發兩下. 一支靚嘅1911會好貴貴在就係手工,同工匠手藝

作者: screwupman2022 時間: 19-1-2019 17:09

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原帖由 AICSman 於 19-1-2019 00:20 發表
一致好嘅1911,最緊要係fitting要緊同smooth. Trigger 一定要清脆又唔可以過重 , 1911 trigger 冇彈弓, 係用1片內行人叫3finger鐵片,同一粒叫sear嘅組合以控制trigger. 就係以上依兩點都要有好嘅手 ...

sear即係擊鎚的阻鐵，平時會阻住擊鎚hammer擊落，扣雞動作會移開阻鐵，hammer的彈弓或彈簧片的潛在力被釋放，hammer就擊落...每款手槍同步槍都有hammer同sear，扳機組當中仲有disconnector...

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