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作者: macross1911 時間: 25-5-2008 08:22 標題: 四川地震....損款收據換服務及貨品

四川地震....損款收據換服務及貨品

由於四川地震,

眼見 wargame界不論商店, game場及個人二手買賣等,

以救災捐款名義吸引各善長公益,

把收益捐給各慈善機構,

特發奇想,

我們可否打錢直接捐給慈善機構,

再以慈善捐款收據換取貨品或服務呢?

作者: marcooo 時間: 25-5-2008 08:27 標題: 回覆 #1 macross1911 的帖子

可以

等同張銀紙由銀行出一樣，如何換領貨幣

問題係如何證明捐款收據是真，廣泛接受性係幾多。

作者: RoyalMarine 時間: 25-5-2008 11:00

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原帖由 marcooo 於 25-5-2008 08:27 發表
可以

等同張銀紙由銀行出一樣，如何換領貨幣

問題係如何證明捐款收據是真，廣泛接受性係幾多。

我覺得可惜好多都講到明"扣除必要開支後, 將全數撥捐.....", 而唔係"收入全數撥捐....", 所以你唔可能收據當現金.

呢句說話可圈可點. 除非該服務/產品是生活經常性開支, 否則某程度上可能只係生意的招來, 因為有幾多個商戶會全數公開何為必要開支?

老實講, 我要捐$1000, 假設某服務成本$500, 點解我唔好好直接將果$1000直接交到慈善志願機構而係要將$1500甚至更多交到佢地手先扣除必要開支換取貨品/服務? 因為以上$500只是我假設的成本, 該服務/產品的成本可能是$1400, 那麼這次我消費$1500, 最後捐款只可能係我心目中的10%.

其實樓主問得好, 如果有心參與捐款既商戶, 應該標明義務提供服務/產品並全數撥捐又或者等額捐助等, 如果係呢類商戶, 捐款收據當現金都唔係無機會. 但畢竟香港始終係一個商業社會, 賺幾多捐幾多無人會知亦無人會理, 最緊要只係收入幾多同埋換取到幾多服務....

[ 本帖最後由 RoyalMarine 於 25-5-2008 11:47 編輯 ]

作者: marcooo 時間: 25-5-2008 11:10 標題: 回覆 #3 RoyalMarine 的帖子

拔拔兄

今日等我去買枝慈善134a 先

作者: RoyalMarine 時間: 25-5-2008 11:15

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原帖由 marcooo 於 25-5-2008 11:10 發表
拔拔兄

今日等我去買枝慈善134a 先

你係咪啜少啖134會死呀? 否則我覺得你應該直接捐出果$40.:x

作者: marcooo 時間: 25-5-2008 14:12 標題: 回覆 #5 RoyalMarine 的帖子

旺角有間東東義賣 gas (好似有top gas，紅氣)

$9草一大枝 134a，買左枝 browning 就有得啜啦，佢餓左幾年啦

作者: steveyue 時間: 25-5-2008 22:08

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原帖由 marcooo 於 25-5-2008 14:12 發表
旺角有間東東義賣 gas (好似有top gas，紅氣)

$9草一大枝 134a，買左枝 browning 就有得啜啦，佢餓左幾年啦

你捐左個$90佢la

作者: 29Commando 時間: 25-5-2008 22:40 標題: 回覆 #7 steveyue 的帖子

但義賣個價都貴過人

作者: B20_hk 時間: 25-5-2008 22:45

最怕有人魚目混珠

另外Marco兄果支是甚麼牌子?

作者: RoyalMarine 時間: 25-5-2008 22:55

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原帖由 B20_hk 於 25-5-2008 22:45 發表
最怕有人魚目混珠

另外Marco兄果支是甚麼牌子?

老實講, 如果有心要捐錢又何需高調. 有心就夠.

乾脆將你手上的一疊現鈔到紅十字會或其他慈善機構的善款收集箱, 直接了當, 唔怕有魚目混珠, 亦理論上不會發出任何聲音.

作者: B20_hk 時間: 25-5-2008 22:58 標題: 回覆 #10 RoyalMarine 的帖子

當然，有些鋪頭可能志在清貨

作者: RoyalMarine 時間: 25-5-2008 23:03

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原帖由 B20_hk 於 25-5-2008 22:58 發表
當然，有些鋪頭可能志在清貨

我捐既錢唔多, 但已經盡力而為, 不過如果真係可以囉住張捐款收據去呢 d 咁熱心既舖頭掃貨同慈善 wargame 場當現金打幾次免費wargame, 我同 d 災民都會好感激.

作者: Sidan 時間: 31-5-2008 02:03 標題: This is the saddest post I ever read in the history of any forum

You're donating, not buying a "Coupon" so you can exchange the same amount of merchandise.  It is very generous of you to donate when our countryman is in need, but why should ANY shops should reimburse your donation with free merchandise or free wargame or free anything?

This earthquake shaken not only Xichang, but the whole country and the world.  Everyone is affected, everyone is trying to do something to help, and every little bits help!  You might have donated previously, but you might have help even MORE by buying a bottle of "airsoft gas" or BBs under charity sales.

I have no comment regarding charity sale after cost deduction.  But for charity sales WITHOUT "Cost Deduction", it means every single dollar you paid for that merchandise goes to charity organizations.  For the money you paid, as least you get something, but the shops donate all the money from that sale.

I am shocked and sad to see that anyone manage to see "evil" and negativity in shops and wargame venues' charity attempt to raise money for Xichang.  They're doing their part and here we're complaining and question other's good intension.

I know I will probably upset someone by publicly voice my opinion, but there is something way too wrong about the idea and even worst is, so many agree.

[ 本帖最後由 Sidan 於 31-5-2008 02:28 編輯 ]

作者: RoyalMarine 時間: 31-5-2008 10:24

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原帖由 Sidan 於 31-5-2008 02:16 發表
You're donating, not buying a "Coupon" so you can exchange the same amount of merchandise. It is very generous of you to donate when our countryman is in need, but why should ANY shops ...

Help, you have absolutely reversed the subject and the object man. That 's NOT what we donors REQUESTED!!! That's what any service provider/shop OFFER to the donors! Please MAKE IT CLEAR FIRST before you piss off here. All the donors at least can see how the money go directly to any charity organization and bypass any hands of businessmen.

EVEN OUR DONORS CAN MOVE FASTER THAN SUCH BUSINESSMEN. THEY CAN DONATE ALL THEIR PROFIT WITHOUT A NOISE OR ANNOUNCE IT AFTERWARDS. WELL, TELL ME AND ALL THE DONORS, WHAT 'S WRONG WITH!?

I know you might one of the boss. We had donated our money already WITHOUT any conditions. PLEASE help the victims but not according to the sales result of coming weeks.

[ 本帖最後由 RoyalMarine 於 31-5-2008 10:46 編輯 ]

作者: Sidan 時間: 31-5-2008 19:19

At where I work, my company match every dollar donation by the staff.  If I donate $100, my company donate $100.  Now, you may say something negative like "why can't the company just donate the money", "why make so much "noise"", or you may call it an advertisement gimmick, etc.

The way I see it, it is another way to encourage staff to donate.  It's a spirit, a movement to encourage everyone to help.  Just like shops doing their parts to help by offering charity sales.  I just can't see why should any shop OFFER to use your donation slip as money.  What you're saying completely defeat the spirit of "Charity Sales".

And how do you know businessman doesn't donate outside the shop, out of their own savings, without making any "noise"?  Maybe they have and we just don't know about it.  Do they have to let you know so that you will stop your accusation?

And by the slightest chance, I hope you're not suggesting people to go line up at HSBC for a $40 134A donation

My best friend is a shop owner who happens to run a charity sales for the earthquake struck Xichang. He is involve in volunteer work and charity work long before the earthquake. I think what he's doing is great, I admire his patient as a business owner to put up with people pointing fingers when all his intension was to help people.

作者: RoyalMarine 時間: 1-6-2008 22:56

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原帖由 Sidan 於 31-5-2008 19:32 發表
At where I work, my company match every dollar donation by the staff. If I donate $100, my company donate $100. Now, you may say something negative like "why can't the company just donate the money", "why make so much "noise"", or you may call it an advertisement gimmick, etc.

No comment, bujt I encourage this anyway, since that's the matter between employers and employees. Who cares?

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原帖由 Sidan 於 31-5-2008 19:32 發表

The way I see it, it is another way to encourage staff to donate. It's a spirit, a movement to encourage everyone to help. Just like shops doing their parts to help by offering charity sales. I just can't see why should any shop OFFER to use your donation slip as money. What you're saying completely defeat the spirit of "Charity Sales".

And how do you know businessman doesn't donate outside the shop, out of their own savings, without making any "noise"? Maybe they have and we just don't know about it. Do they have to let you know so that you will stop your accusation?

See what you bull shxt. That's exactly what we should discuss here. I m not going to defeat any spirit of "Charity Sales", but if you are going to talking on the spirit, see your words, you had raised what the exactly problem is.

Donate outside the shop? So? Related to their business? No?? Then? You will have your own answer.

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原帖由 Sidan 於 31-5-2008 19:32 發表

And by the slightest chance, I hope you're not suggesting people to go line up at HSBC for a $40 134A donation

What's the problem?

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原帖由 Sidan 於 31-5-2008 19:32 發表

My best friend is a shop owner who happens to run a charity sales for the earthquake struck Xichang. He is involve in volunteer work and charity work long before the earthquake. I think what he's doing is great, I admire his patient as a business owner to put up with people pointing fingers when all his intension was to help people.

I encourage this happen. As a business owner, you can try to ask your customer or business partners to do more something for the victims. But please release any hook to their backend stock or sales result first!

作者: marcooo 時間: 2-6-2008 00:42 標題: 回覆 #9 B20_hk 的帖子

tanaka

作者: queen 時間: 3-6-2008 01:30

要捐$$, 就不要埋回報..........

"以慈善捐款收據換取貨品或服務".......真係諗都未諗過.....

捐得$$就咪咁少家..........

作者: RoyalMarine 時間: 3-6-2008 11:36

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原帖由 queen 於 3-6-2008 01:43 發表
要捐$$, 就不要埋回報..........

"以慈善捐款收據換取貨品或服務".......真係諗都未諗過.....

捐得$$就咪咁少家..........

哈, 同意, 要捐錢, 可以直接 d, 所以我連 gas 都唔會買, 捐埋佢就算.

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