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作者: reaper    時間: 9-7-2008 11:31     標題: 慈善獎券義賣

SPCA(HK) will be hosting a raffle ticket selling competition from July 26 to September 18, 2008. You are welcome to join together with your family and friends (please note that volunteers must be older than 16 years old).

Thank you very much


香港愛護動物協會將於2008年7月26日-2008年9月18日舉行慈善獎券義賣比賽。歡迎您帶同家人及朋友（備註：義工必須年滿16歲）。




Alfred Ma
Fundraising Assistant
Fund Raising Department, SPCA (HK)
Direct line: 2232 5510
Fax: 2511 5590
Website: www.spca.org.hk

[ 本帖最後由 reaper 於 10-7-2008 11:32 編輯 ]
作者: reaper    時間: 9-7-2008 16:42

sorry, it is actually from July 26 to September 13, 2008

thank you
作者: zeta    時間: 9-7-2008 17:46

即係鬥賣得多?
作者: reaper    時間: 10-7-2008 09:35

the competition part is more like a...motivation,
the primary objective is to raise money for SPCA(HK)
作者: apache    時間: 10-7-2008 10:09

多唔多女性義工 ?
作者: louisli    時間: 10-7-2008 10:24

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原帖由 apache 於 10-7-2008 10:09 發表
多唔多女性義工 ?
一定有好多索狗女
作者: reaper    時間: 10-7-2008 10:54

i can only tell you that...i talk to more than 80 girls per day when i am calling for volunteer...
作者: Hkpolice-Psu    時間: 10-7-2008 11:46

SPCA  一個非常表面ge org
作者: 甜甜    時間: 10-7-2008 11:58

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原帖由 Hkpolice-Psu 於 10-7-2008 11:46 發表
SPCA  一個非常表面ge org
表面既，可以吸引一大班人做義工
但另一方面，佢地令到大家更加關注動物

所以無話好定唔好
作者: Hkpolice-Psu    時間: 10-7-2008 12:08

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原帖由 甜甜 於 10-7-2008 11:58 發表


表面既，可以吸引一大班人做義工
但另一方面，佢地令到大家更加關注動物

所以無話好定唔好
唔係多x得spca, 我地屋企隻貓仔可能唔洗死
作者: reaper    時間: 10-7-2008 14:19

maybe you can explain more on what happened?
作者: Hkpolice-Psu    時間: 11-7-2008 10:46

話說我屋企本來當時有2隻貓BB(其實都應該1-2個月大?)第一隻唔知點解死左, 唔好問我點解, 第一已經3年前, 第2我第1次屋企有貓B

第二隻o係一個week之後有一晚突然十分奇怪, 咁我問frd點算, 佢叫我打去spca, 咁我打左去啦, 跟住同佢講左我有隻貓b, 唔知咩事, 好似就死咁, 咁可以點, 跟住電話裡面果條友就話, 「急診要1600蚊ga wor, 咁你仲睇唔睇呀?!」,語氣帶囂張, 佢咁講一講, 我當時又真係無錢, 諗多兩諗貓b已經唔得了....

仲話有拯救關懷保護?!

我呸！
作者: reaper    時間: 11-7-2008 11:56

First of all, I am sorry for what happened to your kitty. However please do understand that there is a cost to hire the vets as there's no veterinary school in HK until this year.

please consider why Emergency rooms in hk have priorities and start charging people. it is not like we didn't want to help, but there is always a cost and we cannot afford to pay for the medication for all animals.

last but not least, i would like to know where you got the kitties from? I am not trying to start a post war here, but if you are disappointed with SPCA, have you thought about what you could have done for the second kitty after the first kitty died?
作者: Hkpolice-Psu    時間: 12-7-2008 15:12

okay, 我都明白你唔係想postwar而me too

第一, 我點養貓我認為無責任或需要向閣下解釋或報告, 我只會講我一路都有養開, 養左十年, 只係未試過有初生貓b

第二, 我唔多講cost 唔cost 呢樣野, 我過去o係ngo工作過一段唔短時間亦有做緊生意, 我唔知閣下對profit同non-profit點睇
我只係想講如果有心的話, 佢大可以叫我自己過去spca, 我無錢搭的士咩?由旺角去灣仔好很遠咩?我無錢我借都借到去, 佢有無suggest我其他方法?無

只係問我$1600仲睇唔睇, 1600好多咩?我一個m4 ris都無左啦, 我諗呢個唔係個人問題, 係成個org價值觀問題,

請人無interview嘛?無annual performance appraisal 嘛?

咁如果一間咁大間機構都無呢D行政程序, 講得通嘛?

咁有就更加唔應該出現呢d問題, 即係上樑不正下樑歪啦

我o係度講呢d說話唔係話要阻止閣下去叫人捐錢

我只係想講多d我個人經歷俾cgf會員聽下, 有時做善事係好, 但係都要用智慧

好似呀曾特首打算捐一百億上去, 好事定壞事?見人見智
作者: gtoray    時間: 12-7-2008 18:00

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原帖由 Hkpolice-Psu 於 11-7-2008 10:46 發表
話說我屋企本來當時有2隻貓BB(其實都應該1-2個月大?)第一隻唔知點解死左, 唔好問我點解, 第一已經3年前, 第2我第1次屋企有貓B

第二隻o係一個week之後有一晚突然十分奇怪, 咁我問frd點算, 佢叫我打去spca, 咁我打左 ...
我想講幾樣o野
spca 唔係一間善堂, 唔好諗住好似 999 咁可以隨傳隋到
養寵物有時代價係好貴的, 責任亦唔細

我明白你ge經歷可能令你好討厭 spca
但係其實都係"電話裡面果條友"ge錯
唔可以一支竹打沉一船人
無視左 spca 作岀ge貢獻
作者: Hkpolice-Psu    時間: 12-7-2008 18:16

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原帖由 gtoray 於 12-7-2008 18:00 發表


我想講幾樣o野
spca 唔係一間善堂, 唔好諗住好似 999 咁可以隨傳隋到
養寵物有時代價係好貴的, 責任亦唔細

我明白你ge經歷可能令你好討厭 spca
但係其實都係"電話裡面果條友"ge錯
唔可以一支竹打沉一船人 ...
咁如果自稱係非牟利團體 / 慈善團體 , 理論上都可以叫善堂掛....

咁當然啦, 原來佢地ge宗旨係

The SPCA believes that animals deserve our protection, compassion and respect. We aim to prevent their suffering wherever we can through-

從未提及有主人ge佢地會提供協助
作者: gtoray    時間: 12-7-2008 18:18

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原帖由 Hkpolice-Psu 於 12-7-2008 18:16 發表


咁如果自稱係非牟利團體 / 慈善團體 , 理論上都可以叫善堂掛....

善堂係派米ga ma
非牟利團體要收回成本ga~
作者: Hkpolice-Psu    時間: 12-7-2008 18:20

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原帖由 gtoray 於 12-7-2008 18:18 發表



善堂係派米ga ma
非牟利團體要收回成本ga~
咁佢地洗咩要人捐錢姐, 都收到成本囉
作者: gtoray    時間: 12-7-2008 18:29

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原帖由 Hkpolice-Psu 於 12-7-2008 18:20 發表


咁佢地洗咩要人捐錢姐, 都收到成本囉
只係果 part ge成本....而且急診似乎唔係 spca ge 主要目標服務
如果要靠急診收費支持, 咁就 16000 一次都唔掂啦
作者: gtoray    時間: 12-7-2008 18:37

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原帖由 Hkpolice-Psu 於 12-7-2008 18:16 發表


咁如果自稱係非牟利團體 / 慈善團體 , 理論上都可以叫善堂掛....

咁當然啦, 原來佢地ge宗旨係

The SPCA believes that animals deserve our protection, compassion and respect. We aim to preve ...
o岩ga, 所以唔好諗住佢地係 serv 我地(人類)

btw. 佢地係好鼓勵主人為 pets 絕育的

作者: Hkpolice-Psu    時間: 12-7-2008 18:38

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原帖由 gtoray 於 12-7-2008 18:29 發表


只係果 part ge成本....而且急診似乎唔係 spca ge 主要目標服務
如果要靠急診收費支持, 咁就 16000 一次都唔掂啦
原來係咁....

尤果d有主人ge動物死晒佢, 咁就係佢地ge目標, 防止動物被遺棄

真高招!
作者: gtoray    時間: 12-7-2008 18:52

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原帖由 Hkpolice-Psu 於 12-7-2008 18:38 發表


原來係咁....

尤果d有主人ge動物死晒佢, 咁就係佢地ge目標, 防止動物被遺棄

真高招!
講真...唔好將個波推比 spca
你係有好好照顧隻貓咪, 點解佢大肚你都唔知?
你唔想佢有 bb 點解唔幫佢做絕育?
如果你ge方式一直都係天生天養就應該貫徹始終

你係咪真係咁珍惜生命? 我諗唔係lor
$1600 上門睇病, 如果係你自己有病, 你比唔比?

想當年, 我都嫌同隻狗狗 body check 要 $3xxx 而無做
所以唔知道佢已經有大病
到今日, 我都怪責自己

我都唔想再養, 因為我知道自己唔係一個好主人
作者: Hkpolice-Psu    時間: 12-7-2008 19:07

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原帖由 gtoray 於 12-7-2008 18:52 發表


講真...唔好將個波推比 spca
你係有好好照顧隻貓咪, 點解佢大肚你都唔知?
你唔想佢有 bb 點解唔幫佢做絕育?
如果你ge方式一直都係天生天養就應該貫徹始終

你係咪真係咁珍惜生命? 我諗唔係lor
$1600 上門睇 ...
hehe...

你忘記左我同你講過隻貓b我係o係公司執返尼ge, 我公司從來無貓, 係自來的, 點來唔知, 點解無貓媽唔知

我只係好心執佢返尼, 一心諗住佢無人/貓要就我養大佢啦...
作者: gtoray    時間: 12-7-2008 19:12

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原帖由 Hkpolice-Psu 於 12-7-2008 19:07 發表
hehe...

你忘記左我同你講過隻貓b我係o係公司執返尼ge, 我公司從來無貓, 係自來的, 點來唔知, 點解無貓媽唔知

我只係好心執佢返尼, 一心諗住佢無人/貓要就我養大佢啦...
我都知你都係好心ge
如果將來仲會收養流浪貓就要同佢絕育喇
唔係佢出去搞三搞四你就煩啦
一胎幾隻, 唔係貴貓又未必有人要
自己又未必養得咁多
作者: Kane    時間: 12-7-2008 19:20

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原帖由 gtoray 於 12-7-2008 19:12 發表


我都知你都係好心ge
如果將來仲會收養流浪貓就要同佢絕育喇
唔係佢出去搞三搞四你就煩啦
一胎幾隻, 唔係貴貓又未必有人要
自己又未必養得咁多
我一year係街拾過3x 只貓狗
餵貓,捉d流浪貓去desex(<===唔洗錢)
d 洗費我可以起碼買2支ptw
作者: reaper    時間: 13-7-2008 15:27

All i can say is that it is the responsibility of the owner to take care of their pets. Since we did offer our service, I don't really get what's your point for hating SPCA(HK).

So lets say a parent is mistreating his/ her child, and suddenly the child got very sick.
Can he/ she blame the hospital for not being able to save their children?

you do have a kind heart for taking care of the kitties which is very great. On the other hand, they might be still alive if you sent the kitties to a vet for body check after you took them home. Have you ever try to find the cause of death of the 1st kitty to prevent the same thing happening to the 2nd kitty?

We wanted to take care of animals, but we also have limited power and so we ask the owner to consider the consequences before they keep their pet.
作者: Hkpolice-Psu    時間: 15-7-2008 09:40

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原帖由 reaper 於 13-7-2008 15:27 發表
All i can say is that it is the responsibility of the owner to take care of their pets. Since we did offer our service, I don't really get what's your point for hating SPCA(HK).

So lets say a pare ...
如果你要用人來比較就有排講, 有老豆老母果D入AED係1600一次, 無老豆老母果D就有優惠

窮人?咪唔好生仔囉, 係無得俾你醫GE喇, 一係放棄佢, 等佢有都變無老豆老母, 咁咪可以有其他人照顧囉

仲有, 無隻貓ge死亡相差只係數天, 我唔係法醫亦唔係專業獸醫, 我只係憑我人生經驗話俾我知當我認為香港可以幫到我ge機構竟然係咁

咁就唔該佢改名, 應該叫做只保護被放棄動物協會啦
作者: reaper    時間: 15-7-2008 10:15

Did they not perform their duty? I was not asking you to examine the death of your 1st kitty, I was saying that maybe you could have brought the 2nd kitty for a body check after the 1st one died.

What is the purpose of 保良局? Do they not protect children? Try to call 保良局 and say your son is very sick...see what they will tell you. Should they change their name too?

There is a purpose for each organization, you think its fair to blame SPCA(HK) for not doing something that they are responsible for?

香港愛護動物協會原稱香港防止虐畜會，其後改為現時的名稱。在香港主權移交前，該會曾一度有「皇家」的銜頭，稱為皇家香港愛護動物協會。


主要工作
收集及拯救被遺棄的受傷動物。
調查虐待動物的報告。
接收香港市民棄養的動物,以解動物流離之困。
為貓狗提供廉價的絕育手術服務,以避免動物被繁殖後無人願意養育的情況。
為無家可歸的動物尋覓新主人。
盡可能為一些無家可歸的動物提供住院的服務,包括:基本的獸疾護理,治療. 甚至大型手術。


向公眾傳揚"寵物主人應有的責任與動物福利"之訊息。
作者: Rager    時間: 15-7-2008 10:34

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原帖由 reaper 於 15-7-2008 10:15 發表
Did they not perform their duty? I was not asking you to examine the death of your 1st kitty, I was saying that maybe you could have brought the 2nd kitty for a body check after the 1st one died.

...
睇翻psu師兄篇文
再睇下愛護動物協會個宗旨
"寵物主人應有的責任與動物福利"
比個寵物得到INSTANT TREATMENT唔係動物福利?
作者: reaper    時間: 15-7-2008 11:22

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原帖由 Rager 於 15-7-2008 10:34 發表

睇翻psu師兄篇文
再睇下愛護動物協會個宗旨
"寵物主人應有的責任與動物福利"
比個寵物得到INSTANT TREATMENT唔係動物福利?
"佢叫我打去spca, 咁我打左去啦, 跟住同佢講左我有隻貓b, 唔知咩事, 好似就死咁, 咁可以點, 跟住電話裡面果條友就話, 「急診要1600蚊ga wor, 咁你仲睇唔睇呀?!」,語氣帶囂張, 佢咁講一講, 我當時又真係無錢, 諗多兩諗貓b已經唔得了...."

I do understand that the operator might not be very nice...but please also understand that we did offer instant treatment. On the other hand, how do you interpret 寵物主人應有的責任?
作者: Hkpolice-Psu    時間: 15-7-2008 12:21

有時我真係唔明, 要講自己係慈善團體, 但係個服務收費係咁高, 分分鐘仲高過普通獸醫,

如果又要講保良局的話, 我諗又.....有排講喇, 保良局除左會接收小朋友收, 仲會提供合理收費ge服務, 就好似幼稚園咁, 佢唔會收3千幾一個月學費

其實講到尾, 就唔應該接其他服務, 既然又要標慈善團體牌頭出尼, 但係服務宗旨以外服務就同出面牟利公司差不多

咁不如一句就問有主人ge一我地唔做咪仲好
作者: reaper    時間: 15-7-2008 12:38

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原帖由 Hkpolice-Psu 於 15-7-2008 12:21 發表
有時我真係唔明, 要講自己係慈善團體, 但係個服務收費係咁高, 分分鐘仲高過普通獸醫,

如果又要講保良局的話, 我諗又.....有排講喇, 保良局除左會接收小朋友收, 仲會提供合理收費ge服務, 就好似幼稚園咁, 佢唔會收 ...
收費高...That I totally agree with you
but that is part of the place that we can get money from...
we need money to provide medication and homing for those homeless animals....
please understand that we don't really get that much money from the government...

bottom line is...I do agree that 1600 for emergency service is quite high and I really do feel sorry for your kitties.

Please understand that ER (for human) is cheap in hk because there is governmental support...
(Actually people in HK are very lucky because ER is cheap in HK... but it can cost you 10000 in US)
and considering when theres no governmental support for animal emergency service, 1600 is actually reasonable...



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