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§@ªÌ: Castlevania    ®É¶¡: 3-1-2009 18:13

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§@ªÌ: SL1991    ®É¶¡: 3-1-2009 21:33

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§@ªÌ: queen    ®É¶¡: 3-1-2009 22:16

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§@ªÌ: khkenny2    ®É¶¡: 4-1-2009 02:34

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§@ªÌ: tango10    ®É¶¡: 4-1-2009 09:39

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§@ªÌ: DESTINY--1    ®É¶¡: 5-1-2009 16:35

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§@ªÌ: MANKF    ®É¶¡: 8-1-2009 15:26     ¼ÐÃD: ¦^´_ 1# ªº©«¤l

I want to see what "real courage" is, instead of getting the idea that courage is a man with gun in his hand. It's when you're licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see it through no matter what.  You rarely win but sometimes you do.
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§@ªÌ: changhinshing    ®É¶¡: 25-1-2009 19:22

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§@ªÌ: target    ®É¶¡: 25-1-2009 23:27

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§@ªÌ: helloleeho    ®É¶¡: 27-1-2009 11:06

something wrong in the movie...Gen. Lawson was shot dead in front of his West Command bunker on Wong Nei Chong Gap Road, not a building... WO2 Osborn scarified when holding a peak on a Mt. Butler, after re-take it.

For the history parts... Royal Rifle of Canada & Winnipeg Grenadiers were planned to Garrison in HK, they have plenty time to train & familiar w/ HK but the war start so soon....  Heavy equipment of were also shipped out to Hong Kong in another transport, but when the war started, they were still on their way and never made it to HK, but go to Manila and used by the US instead.

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§@ªÌ: helloleeho    ®É¶¡: 27-1-2009 11:22

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Mr. tango10

I think your info. is wrong,

First of all, UK never planned to give up SE Asia, their major strong hold in Asia was Singapore.. but they stupidly surrender to Japan w/o much major fight. And u are kinda right.. They disregard the importance of HK before the war started....

FYI.. Royal Scots, Middlesex Reg't did fight in the Battle for HK.. about the info about ¨Ó´äªº¥[­x³£³Q§iª¾¨ì´ä°V½m.. pls refer to my other reply!!!

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§@ªÌ: tango10    ®É¶¡: 27-1-2009 14:18

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Mr. tango10

I think your info. is wrong,

First of all, UK never planned to give up SE Asia, their major strong hold in Asia was Singapore.. but they stupidly surrender to Japan w/o much majo ...
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§@ªÌ: helloleeho    ®É¶¡: 27-1-2009 21:50

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Hmmm... Inside Stories... I love to hear that
§@ªÌ: tango10    ®É¶¡: 27-1-2009 21:58

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Hmmm... Inside Stories... I love to hear that
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Let get some facts

1. "The war of Hong Kong" was a war between two aggressors or occupiers , there is never a "Good" against "Evil" in this.

2. The defense of  Hong Kong was to protect the interest of British Empire,to some extend, it was an act to protect their prize won from the Opium war, and it has very little to do with the local Chinese population in Hong Kong. The tragic consequence to the local was only an un-affordable side story, a copies of all Chinese cities under Japanese occupation.

3. The British troops in Singapore never "stupidly surrender" the city, the Japanese troop in Malaysia Peninsula simply out perform the British, while British troop heavily underestimate the effectiveness of Japanese troops. In fact, westerns historians mostly agreed that British was too arrogant and confident at the time. This can very much apply to the "The war of Hong Kong" as well.

If anyone is interested in the British- Chinese relationship during the war, I strongly suggest pick up background reading on the war in Burma WWII, it will also gives you a good insight into the dirty inter relationship between allies forces.

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§@ªÌ: tango10    ®É¶¡: 4-2-2009 02:38

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Let get some facts

1. "The war of Hong Kong" was a war between two aggressors or occupiers , there is never a "Good" against "Evil" in this.

2. The defense of  Hong Kong was to protect th ...
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