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作者: ayaka 時間: 22-5-2010 14:19 標題: 1-4X 鏡的選擇

小弟想入一支1-4X的真品鏡, 有幾隻牌子有出, 有平有貴
但係小弟唔清楚佢地有分別, 所以想請教師兄們的意見

以下係不同牌子的MODEL, 邊支性價比高D呢

THANKS

Burris XTR Tactical Rifle Scope 1-4x24mm

Leupold VX-II 1-4x20mm

NightForce 1-4x24 NXS

Schmidt & Bender Short Dot CQB 1.1-4x20mm

作者: Hkpolice-Psu 時間: 22-5-2010 14:38

tr21都唔錯丫~

作者: 101653 時間: 22-5-2010 14:39

NightForce近排興阿

作者: 傻仔 時間: 22-5-2010 14:42

唔知有冇copy鏡係1-4x ??

作者: lodosscw 時間: 22-5-2010 14:44

Burris XTR Tactical Rifle Scope 1-4x24mm around USD679
Leupold VX-II 1-4x20mm around USD300
NightForce 1-4x24 NXS around USD1200
Schmidt And Bender Police Marksman 1.1-4x20 CQB around USD2600

for non illuminated scope
I perfer Leupold VX-II 1-4x20mm

for illuminated scope
I perfer NightForce 1-4x24 NXS
$$ was my first priority on decision making. Thanks
BTW, found one Nightforce NXS 1-4 x 24 selling with HK$9500 on 2nd hand page of CGF

作者: 蛇 時間: 22-5-2010 14:51

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原帖由 Hkpolice-Psu 於 2010-5-22 14:38 發表
tr21都唔錯丫~

TR24...

作者: ayaka 時間: 22-5-2010 15:07

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原帖由 Hkpolice-Psu 於 22-5-2010 14:38 發表
tr21都唔錯丫~

係wor! 竟然唔記得左trijicon

作者: lodosscw 時間: 22-5-2010 15:11

if ayake ching don't mind. take a look on my China made 1-4x.

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http://wargamehk.com/cgf/attachment.php?aid=100897

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http://wargamehk.com/cgf/attachment.php?aid=100898

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http://wargamehk.com/cgf/attachment.php?aid=100899

作者: 傻仔 時間: 22-5-2010 15:20

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原帖由 lodosscw 於 22-5-2010 15:11 發表
if ayake ching don't mind. take a look on my China made 1-4x.

請問師兄支鏡係邊到買??
幾多錢到??
若師兄唔介意,可以講埋mount嗎??
唔方便的話,請pm小弟,
Thanks!!

[ 本帖最後由傻仔於 22-5-2010 15:21 編輯 ]

作者: ayaka 時間: 22-5-2010 15:21

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原帖由 lodosscw 於 22-5-2010 15:11 發表
if ayake ching don't mind. take a look on my China made 1-4x.

100897

100898

100899

oh! 多謝你的相!
e隻係咪copy leupold 的mark4?
個reticle都幾好睇!
請問鏡身大約幾長呢?
thanks~

[ 本帖最後由 ayaka 於 22-5-2010 15:22 編輯 ]

作者: 101653 時間: 22-5-2010 15:25

作者: lodosscw 時間: 22-5-2010 15:31

lenght 10.5inch

作者: ayaka 時間: 22-5-2010 15:33

以前玩過一d copy鏡
zoom左之後reticle會移位
所以對copy失左信心

作者: lodosscw 時間: 22-5-2010 17:05

ayaka ching, upload the 1X & 4X image for refernce

1X

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http://wargamehk.com/cgf/attachment.php?aid=100902

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http://wargamehk.com/cgf/attachment.php?aid=100903

作者: ayaka 時間: 22-5-2010 17:29 標題: 回覆 14# 的帖子

唔該晒你! 睇落好似幾好咁wor!

作者: felix923hk 時間: 22-5-2010 21:04 標題: 回覆 14# 的帖子

想問問師兄 e支野幾錢?

作者: RX7 時間: 22-5-2010 21:21

搭單一問,本人想入枝TR24R/G,但仲未決定入R定G
想問一下,綠色三角會唔會係叢林之類比較綠的背景冇紅咁易瞄?
謝謝

作者: bbc100 時間: 22-5-2010 21:22

唔好意思，騎一騎劫....
小弟都想搵反支tr-21，唔知有無師兄知邊度搵到呢？
thx!!

作者: bbc100 時間: 22-5-2010 21:29 標題: 回覆 17# 的帖子

小弟未用過，不過睇過一d review 話綠光係叢林都ok。
不過紅光係室內就太光。

作者: ayaka 時間: 22-5-2010 22:16

我支TA33係AMBER色....INDOOR/ OUTDOOR都好好睇

作者: McDull 時間: 22-5-2010 23:30

其實有好多選擇，想玩發光既有TR24，再唔係NF都係一皮以內既好野。

作者: mujiadam 時間: 23-5-2010 01:57

NF / SB!!!

作者: WeDs 時間: 23-5-2010 03:10

玩過SB真係堅到,望入去係以為冇左玻璃只係一個鏡筒.

作者: gykl3344 時間: 23-5-2010 06:40

多口一題玩真鏡記得配真座,如果用上S&B,NF,記得搵Ｄ好rail（要夠平同直）同搵D真槍的高級ring,好多時支鏡損懷就因為scope　ring把鏡身壓懷，最慘有時懷左都吳知
有隻叫的ＴＰＳ不錯，只是ＵＳＤ１００左右．再好Ｄ的ＵＳＤ２００～３００都有

作者: jpg 時間: 23-5-2010 07:42

如果價錢唔係問題, SB 冇走雞....

作者: 桸藍 時間: 23-5-2010 11:03

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原帖由 bbc100 於 22-5-2010 21:22 發表
唔好意思，騎一騎劫....
小弟都想搵反支tr-21，唔知有無師兄知邊度搵到呢？
thx!!

唔知18/f 重有冇呢

作者: Hkpolice-Psu 時間: 23-5-2010 12:27

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原帖由 ayaka 於 22-5-2010 22:16 發表
我支TA33係AMBER色....INDOOR/ OUTDOOR都好好睇

我支TR21都係

作者: bbc100 時間: 23-5-2010 13:04

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原帖由桸藍於 23-5-2010 11:03 發表

唔知18/f 重有冇呢

問過了，一早無曬了。
個呀姐仲話”d友唔知邊度一收到風就上泥掃，兩野就無曬，都癲既”

作者: RX7 時間: 23-5-2010 13:13

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原帖由 bbc100 於 23-5-2010 13:04 發表

問過了，一早無曬了。
個呀姐仲話”d友唔知邊度一收到風就上泥掃，兩野就無曬，都癲既”

睇o黎要走一轉試下問問有冇得訂...

作者: bbc100 時間: 23-5-2010 13:23

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原帖由 RX7 於 23-5-2010 13:13 發表

睇o黎要走一轉試下問問有冇得訂...

佢地同我講”太遲了，有排都唔會反，下次見到唔好諗”

師兄有消息請單聲，我都搵緊！謝！

作者: RX7 時間: 23-5-2010 13:43

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原帖由 bbc100 於 23-5-2010 13:23 發表

佢地同我講”太遲了，有排都唔會反，下次見到唔好諗”

師兄有消息請單聲，我都搵緊！謝！

下次問完再報告情況啦...

作者: ddlkh 時間: 23-5-2010 13:47

TR-21 Amber Triangle 好好用~!

作者: Easy240 時間: 23-5-2010 19:36

小弟係trijicon支持者，tr24好用，Leupold嘅價錢吸引，打game夠哂用。如果nightforce，我唔會買1-4，我會買3~9囉！

作者: RX7 時間: 2-6-2010 22:02

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原帖由 Easy240 於 23-5-2010 19:36 發表
小弟係trijicon支持者，tr24好用，Leupold嘅價錢吸引，打game夠哂用。如果nightforce，我唔會買1-4，我會買3~9囉！

剛由18/F回來,壞消息係冇得訂催吉控...

諷刺o既係,Trijicon官網,香港唯一retailer,仲係上海街萬事昌商業中心25樓果間....

(應該有人明我講乜)
P.S.如有人有門路入TR24G的話請告訴小的

作者: katotaka 時間: 2-6-2010 22:20

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原帖由 RX7 於 2-6-2010 22:02 發表

剛由18/F回來,壞消息係冇得訂催吉控...
諷刺o既係,Trijicon官網,香港唯一retailer,仲係上海街萬事昌商業中心25樓果間.... (應該有人明我講乜)
P.S.如有人有門路入TR24G的話請告訴小的

「兩次」之前o既舊地址

作者: marcowong 時間: 3-6-2010 00:51

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原帖由 ayaka 於 22-5-2010 14:19 發表
小弟想入一支1-4X的真品鏡, 有幾隻牌子有出, 有平有貴
但係小弟唔清楚佢地有分別, 所以想請教師兄們的意見

以下係不同牌子的MODEL, 邊支性價比高D呢
THANKS

Burris XTR Tactical Rifle Scope 1-4x24 ...

here are the reviews from RS shooter.
http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=104
i am now using the Millet DMS 1-4x scope on my SR15. The pros on the scope are clear image, no image distortion at 1X(compare to TR24), functional BAC,compatible with 1 inch mount unlike TR series, cheap price and the sight stay the same at 1x-4x. The cons are not visible red dot in full sun, and it's quite huge and heavy compare to my high power tasco scope. Hope this review help!

作者: ayaka 時間: 3-6-2010 01:52 標題: 回覆 37# 的帖子

wow~ thanks for you review and advise!
it looks really great on SR15

作者: ohnavi 時間: 3-6-2010 10:17

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原帖由 marcowong 於 3-6-2010 00:51 發表

here are the reviews from RS shooter.
http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=104
i am now using the Millet DMS 1-4x scope on my SR15. The pros on the scope are clear image, no image distortion at 1 ...

so sexxxxy rifle c-hing.

i am getting this mount too, is it good?

作者: marcowong 時間: 3-6-2010 15:17

ayala and ohnavi bro: Haha I am so glad that u guys like it. It is nothing compare to you guys collection . For the mount, it's just a replica from VFC. I have compared it with many rs pictures and I cannot tell the difference!

作者: ayaka 時間: 3-6-2010 16:27

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原帖由 marcowong 於 3-6-2010 15:17 發表
ayala and ohnavi bro: Haha I am so glad that u guys like it. It is nothing compare to you guys collection . For the mount, it's just a replica from VFC. I have compared it with many rs pictures and I ...

Your mount is nice too.
Looks good on both SR15/16 & SR25K

作者: ohnavi 時間: 3-6-2010 16:33

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原帖由 marcowong 於 3-6-2010 15:17 發表
ayala and ohnavi bro: Haha I am so glad that u guys like it. It is nothing compare to you guys collection . For the mount, it's just a replica from VFC. I have compared it with many rs pictures and I ...

個mount睇落真係好似喎！

師兄又吾駛甘謙，小弟覺得每支槍既setting好吾好睇，係槍主好個人既感覺；
觀感、顏色上平吾平衡襯吾襯，零配件用途係咪一致，
反而真品與否係最無關係的，只是個人要求，
有時睇支槍就知道槍主既意識同美學概念...
但就算成支金色又如何？如自己鍾意何需介意別人點講呢

作者: ohnavi 時間: 3-6-2010 16:35 標題: 回覆 41# 的帖子

張相甘正，系邊樹搵？正正正

作者: ayaka 時間: 3-6-2010 16:38 標題: 回覆 43# 的帖子

KAC官網

一定係正野啦~

作者: ohnavi 時間: 3-6-2010 16:59 標題: 回覆 44# 的帖子

正呀，我都想整呢個setting

[ 本帖最後由 ohnavi 於 3-6-2010 17:21 編輯 ]

作者: ohnavi 時間: 3-6-2010 18:15

share my scope view (NP1 reticle)...
at 1X

at 4X

seems no distortion in either mode.
but i discovered that NF is not 100% 1X when its 1X, more like 1.05 to <1.1X.
esp when its close like under 15m. but as distance go further (over 20m), its more close to 1X.

[ 本帖最後由 ohnavi 於 3-6-2010 18:18 編輯 ]

作者: jpg 時間: 4-6-2010 04:33

kac 個隻mount 真係好鬼正. 仲要係沙色..又要落足心機搵啦..

作者: RX7 時間: 4-6-2010 10:25

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原帖由 jpg 於 4-6-2010 04:33 發表
kac 個隻mount 真係好鬼正. 仲要係沙色..又要落足心機搵啦..

搵唔到KAC,咪VFC頂住先囉

作者: ohnavi 時間: 4-6-2010 11:25

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原帖由 jpg 於 4-6-2010 04:33 發表
kac 個隻mount 真係好鬼正. 仲要係沙色..又要落足心機搵啦..

吾難搵，jpg師兄直接官網訂啦包你好快有

作者: marcowong 時間: 4-6-2010 18:39

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原帖由 ohnavi 於 3-6-2010 18:15 發表
share my scope view (NP1 reticle)...
at 1X

at 4X

seems no distortio ...

Cool! Look forward to see ur NF build!

作者: ohnavi 時間: 4-6-2010 19:39 標題: 回覆 50# 的帖子

thanks~
actually my gun is 95% similar to yours,
now just waiting for the mount...

作者: microwavefood 時間: 7-6-2010 11:16

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原帖由 marcowong 於 3-6-2010 00:51 發表

here are the reviews from RS shooter.
http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=104
i am now using the Millet DMS 1-4x scope on my SR15. The pros on the scope are clear image, no image distortion at 1 ...

+1 for Millet DMS-1

我都有枝, 打game用呢枝十分抵用!

撞花都唔肉赤, 而家成象十分清晰, 同我之前用過2枝國產完全2個世界!

作者: jpg 時間: 7-6-2010 11:38 標題: 回覆 49# 的帖子

成2/3 條urx 既價錢...真係要一樣還一樣..而家有兩個任務. urx rifle length 係第一個任務. 不過係urx 之前要搞到隻upper 先.
btw, 大家點睇 trijicon ta31 ecos. 上kac sr15/sr25襯唔襯呢??

作者: ohnavi 時間: 7-6-2010 11:48

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原帖由 jpg 於 7-6-2010 11:38 發表
成2/3 條urx 既價錢...真係要一樣還一樣..而家有兩個任務. urx rifle length 係第一個任務. 不過係urx 之前要搞到隻upper 先.
btw, 大家點睇 trijicon ta31 ecos. 上kac sr15/sr25襯唔襯呢??

甘都岩，個kac mount不算是必需的，仲有好多選擇。
如果你比得trijicon ta31 ecos既價錢，我不會選擇trijicon，
可能我用過吾係甘鍾意，不過可能只係吾適合小弟吧，襯上去樣子是ok的。
如果是SR25，梗係大倍數啦

[ 本帖最後由 ohnavi 於 7-6-2010 14:13 編輯 ]

作者: McDull 時間: 7-6-2010 13:41 標題: 回覆 53# 的帖子

多口搭咀：

TA31系，上SR15還好，上SR25有D唔知點咁

作者: marcowong 時間: 7-6-2010 14:20

hello there i have updated some pics for the Knights replica mount, please enjoy!

作者: ohnavi 時間: 7-6-2010 14:24 標題: 回覆 56# 的帖子

thank you marco bro，睇落真係同真無分別甘...

may i ask what kind of marker you use for those mounts and screws? and where i can buy?

作者: marcowong 時間: 7-6-2010 16:01 標題: 回覆 57# 的帖子

ha dont mention it. The paint is just the tamiya x7 paint ja. You can find it in every model shop!

作者: ohnavi 時間: 7-6-2010 16:05 標題: 回覆 58# 的帖子

oh thank you, i thought its a marker. let me find find...

作者: jpg 時間: 7-6-2010 18:07 標題: 回覆 55# 的帖子

我都有諗過, sr25 好似唔多襯..

作者: jpg 時間: 7-6-2010 18:11 標題: 回覆 54# 的帖子

咁睇呢leupold mark4係我另一個choice, 如果可以搵到沙色仲正...想整sr25, 但係冇咩可能. 我pm左你. 你可能foresee 到我想點..rifle length, match grade upper, plus 18" 管. 而家仲諗緊用咩野gas block, 有sr25 個隻就正啦.

作者: ayaka 時間: 7-6-2010 19:26

sr25k用acog不知幾正

[ 本帖最後由 ayaka 於 7-6-2010 19:27 編輯 ]

作者: ohnavi 時間: 7-6-2010 20:19

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原帖由 jpg 於 7-6-2010 18:11 發表
咁睇呢leupold mark4係我另一個choice, 如果可以搵到沙色仲正...想整sr25, 但係冇咩可能. 我pm左你. 你可能foresee 到我想點..rifle length, match grade upper, plus 18" 管. 而家仲諗緊用咩野gas block, 有sr25 個 ...

大概知道師兄想點了，不過...果隻gas block...更高難度了

作者: 豬肥 時間: 8-6-2010 00:24

個miad咁樣two tone法真係第1次見

作者: 101653 時間: 8-6-2010 00:26

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原帖由 ayaka 於 7-6-2010 19:26 發表
sr25k用acog不知幾正

都係唔得
都係覺得肉孫
或者648會好D?

[ 本帖最後由 101653 於 8-6-2010 00:27 編輯 ]

作者: jpg 時間: 8-6-2010 05:45 標題: 回覆 63# 的帖子

玩具都唔知有冇得散買...真野就真係冇咩可能架啦...

作者: jpg 時間: 8-6-2010 05:47 標題: 回覆 62# 的帖子

唔知點解唔係太鍾意呢款acog. 好似好長咁...呢支好似唔係4x??

作者: jpg 時間: 8-6-2010 05:52

其實我就係想整個sr25k 款既既upper...原來係16"外管, 仲以為係18" tim.

作者: ayaka 時間: 8-6-2010 11:07

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原帖由 jpg 於 8-6-2010 05:47 發表
唔知點解唔係太鍾意呢款acog. 好似好長咁...呢支好似唔係4x??

TA11系列...3.5X

正在EYE RELIEF比TA31長

作者: ohnavi 時間: 8-6-2010 11:29

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原帖由 jpg 於 8-6-2010 05:45 發表
玩具都唔知有冇得散買...真野就真係冇咩可能架啦...

咦？我反而覺得真野個機會大過玩具喎....

作者: NCP013 時間: 8-6-2010 15:55

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原帖由豬肥於 8-6-2010 00:24 發表
個miad咁樣two tone法真係第1次見

而家好多配件都有２～３隻顏色, 可以買齊色自己左搭右搭, 就好似"乜pull"d產品就最好例子, 另外"v"記d MOD STOCK 都可以.

講返鏡, 曾經紅過吓既 Leupold MK4 CQ/T, 雖系係1-3, 但都幾實用, 唔買正廠, 都有KA 既玩具~~

作者: marcowong 時間: 8-6-2010 16:46

i find some a CQT review from M4carbin.netf or you guys reference:
Leupold CQ/T 1-3x14mm

It depends on your application. A lot of competition / 3 gunners use them and really like them. The glass is not bad, just doesn't have a lot of features that lends it's self to being a good optic for *most* military / police / tactical applications:

-On 3x the eye relief is extreemly short (about the width of my index finger),

-the field of view is like looking through a straw,

-the reticle is not visible during day light hours,

-at 3 yards the large circle is touching the "C" on an IPSC target (ie. it's almost too large to be practical),

-it's long and heavy (8.8", 17.5 oz),

-mounting options suck (unless LaRue starts making a mount for them again), the amber lit reticle sucks

-etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.

In short, for my application LEO / SWAT, I don't care for them.

For more info read my responses on page 3 (screen name USMC03)

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.htm...=290997&page=3

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**From another post**

My responses are listed in BOLD Red text below your quote.

Quote:
Originally posted by SMGLee:
Jeff,

Always agree with everything you said except on this CQT issue.

Nothing wrong with having a differening opinion, based on first hand experience. If we all agreed all the time, this internet thing would get boring rather quickly :beer:

the eye relief is short but not any shorter then the ACOG 4x.

I was running our Department Quals on the rifle range 2 weeks ago. We have over 200 sworn officers on our Dept. and only 1 of them carries a CQ/T. While this Officer was at the range I used his CQ/T to get familiar with it again, as it's been 18 - 24 months since I last had any trigger time on one.

On 3x, I measured the distance from my eyebrow to the scope. It was the width of my index finger.

I have owned several ACOGs (TA01, TA01NSN, TA31s, and TA11s).

The eye relief on the TA01, TA01NSN, and TA31 is listed as 1.5". Measuring with my fingers the eye relief is the width of my index AND middle finger. For me the eye relief is noticeably more with the ACOGs.

The eye relief on the TA11 is 3" - 3.5". I'm sure you were probably refering to the 4x ACOGs.

FOV is actually better on the CQT then it is on the short Dot. at least at 1X.

I was refering to the FOV on 3x, it reminds me of looking through a straw. On 1x the CQ/T has a wide field of view, I can remember seeing the handguards on the Officer's rifle.

it is true about the poor illuminating reticel and low battery life. but Short dot has about the same low life on the batteries but at least you can see the illumination during the day.

Opinions, applications, and mission statements differ. As I stated above: "The glass is not bad, just doesn't have a lot of features that lends it's self to being a good optic for *most* military / police / tactical applications."

For the square range there is nothing wrong with a non-illuminated reticle, or a reticle that can't be seen during bright day light, with use of white light, etc.

For people who are operating outside the controlled enviornment of a square range, an illuminated reticle that can be seen under all conditions can be more of a "need" than a "want".

A couple examples of this is:

-Consider going up a stair well with your CQ/T a bad guy has on dark colored clothing. You and a couple other members all have your 9 volt surefire lights aimed in on him. He won't listen to commands. You can't find your reticle because the lights are bright enough to wash out the illuminated reticle and the black reticle is blending in with his clothing. This happened to an Officer I know who use to use the CQ/T.

-Often times, when it's bright outside bad guys, like cockroaches, like to hide in dark areas (barricaded gunman inside a dark house, suspect hiding in a salvage lot under a pile of wrecked cars, under a sheets of plywood leaned up against a fence, in a dark secluded breezeway, etc). If you under the bright sun light in the middle of the day and the suspect is in a dark area, you may not be able to see the reticle as the sun light will wash out the illumination and it's extreemly difficult / sometimes impossible to see / find a black reticle against a dark background.

mount does suck.

At least we found some common ground

but as long and heavy, it is no longer and heavier then a Short dot that cost a lot more.

I should have been more articulate. For what it does, the CQ/T is long and heavy.

If a piece of gear has outstanding performance and desireable features I will tolerate a little extra weight or bulkyness. Other optics are on the market that are close to the same features as the CQ/T that are light, smaller, have more magnification, have more features, and have more eye relief.

To compare the a $700 CQ/T to a $2,000+ Short Dot is much like comparing a $20,000 Saturn to a $50,000 Mercedes Benz. They are not really in the same class. With the Benz, you are paying more for attention to detail and performance. The same applies to optics.

I wasn't trying to compare the two. If you read the www.ar15.com thread above, a guy on that site stated that the they were basically the same, but the CQ/T just cost less. There was a long discussion about the CQ/T in that thread, and that is why I posted a link to it. Sorry for any mis-comm on my part.

the Long tube is require to reach a true 1x unlike the Short dot which is about as long and it is actually a 1.1x.

The CQ/T is extreemly close to 1x, but it is not a true 1x like an EO Tech or Aimpoint. Look at the front sight post next time you look though a CQ/T and you will see some slight distortion cause by slightly more than 1x magnification.

then again.. no one really makes a ture to life 1X there is always some varations. but CQT is the closest to a true 1X.

Disreguard my last.....I concur

It is indeed ugly....and the damn rail on the tube.
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More info on the CQ/T:

Gear selection is based on mission statement and personal preference. If you gear doesn't work when you need it to, it hinders you ability to proficiently complete your mission and come home safely.

I'm not saying that the CQ/T is a bad optic. Leupold marketed it toward the military / tactical community and in my opinion the CQ/T doesn't have a lot of features that lends it's self to being a good optic for *most* military / police / tactical applications.

I think a lot of the complaints you hear about the CQ/T comes from military guys and cops. Many 3 gun, IPSC, competition shooters love the CQ/T. If Leupold had marketed the scope to a different crowd or given it a different name, I don't think you would hear as much chatter about it. Just my 2 pesos

US Optics SN4 1-4x

-1x, not a true 1x. Can see some distortion of the front sight post. Probably more like a 1.1x

-Illuminted reticle can not be seen during the day light

-The factory mount sucks (Can be changed for a superior mount like the LaRue Tactical mount)

-Field of view reminded me of looking through a straw

-Head position had to be just right, but eye relief was adequate

-Optic was overly long and heavy for what it offered.

-I was very slow at close distances with this optic.

Overall I wasn't too impressed with the SN4 as a CQB optic.

作者: jpg 時間: 8-6-2010 18:32 標題: 回覆 70# 的帖子

竟然係咁...我上網搵過都唔見有, gas block 官網都冇散買...知唔知邊到有路數??

作者: ohnavi 時間: 8-6-2010 18:34 標題: 回覆 73# 的帖子

我都係直覺炸，今日搵過下未見有，有搵到梗話你聽

作者: jpg 時間: 8-6-2010 18:35 標題: 回覆 69# 的帖子

唔知倍數鏡既eye relief 會唔會好d 呢??

作者: jpg 時間: 8-6-2010 18:36 標題: 回覆 74# 的帖子

唔該哂. 不過如果搵到玩具, 都係玩具算, 個gas block 分分鐘又成兩舊水.

作者: ohnavi 時間: 8-6-2010 18:38 標題: 回覆 76# 的帖子

邊止兩舊水

，我兩樣都會留意

作者: 傻仔 時間: 8-6-2010 18:40

各位師兄講ge KAC mount,
唔知同lee隻一唔一樣呢??
http://www.gp-web.com/productspop.php?pid=1810

作者: ohnavi 時間: 8-6-2010 18:42 標題: 回覆 78# 的帖子

除隻色外，應係一樣的...

作者: jpg 時間: 8-6-2010 18:46 標題: 回覆 77# 的帖子

唔該哂...今次唔知搞幾耐先完全呢個咁既計劃.

作者: jpg 時間: 8-6-2010 18:48

嘩...gp 呢隻咁金既.........

作者: ohnavi 時間: 8-6-2010 19:00 標題: 回覆 80# 的帖子

搵到先吾該啦，可遇不可求

作者: marcowong 時間: 8-6-2010 19:31

here are some real knights mount for reference:

作者: ohnavi 時間: 8-6-2010 19:49 標題: 回覆 83# 的帖子

nice found bro!
VFC除左隻沙帶點金屬色，同埋個mount做埋沙，其他地方都好似，連Ｄ絲牙都有埋

作者: ohnavi 時間: 14-6-2010 15:57

Ｄ件到齊，我的新look

相影得吾好，sorry

好難搵的片...

隻色真係好泥下

始終都係呢隻最好用

個mount呢度崩果度崩，仲要有鏽，上下吾岩色，都吾知搞物！

聖誕樹，重左好多

btw，我已破產

[ 本帖最後由 ohnavi 於 14-6-2010 18:32 編輯 ]

作者: jpg 時間: 14-6-2010 16:03 標題: 回覆 85# 的帖子

WAH...very nice...個mount 係kac 定vfc.. btw, d 片真係好難搵, 好多時要慢慢等. 嘩如果呢支係ptw , 你話幾好呢...哈哈..

[ 本帖最後由 jpg 於 14-6-2010 16:05 編輯 ]

作者: ohnavi 時間: 14-6-2010 16:05 標題: 回覆 86# 的帖子

its KAC c-hing at special price 2XX...
i found a shop have stock for taupe rail panel, they have rare 6 ribs too... and ship fast

我都有諗過，如果係ptw我會開心死，可惜甘搞法有排都無錢買ptw了x!!

[ 本帖最後由 ohnavi 於 14-6-2010 16:09 編輯 ]

作者: jpg 時間: 14-6-2010 16:07 標題: 回覆 87# 的帖子

嘩, 果然好dup 本....搞到我都心癢癢..

作者: ohnavi 時間: 14-6-2010 16:09 標題: 回覆 88# 的帖子

買啦買啦，一齊送死

作者: jpg 時間: 14-6-2010 16:11

仲有冇special 先, i mean 冇special 成3xx...

[ 本帖最後由 jpg 於 14-6-2010 17:17 編輯 ]

作者: ohnavi 時間: 14-6-2010 16:14

引用:

原帖由 jpg 於 14-6-2010 16:11 發表
仲有冇special 先, 有special 成3xx...

我幫你email問下賣比我個人，再覆你...

作者: jpg 時間: 14-6-2010 17:44

有時間可唔可以pm 個website比我, 等我都入返幾條rail cover. thanks.

歡迎光臨 CGF (http://wargamehk.com/cgf/)