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作者: michaelredknapp 時間: 3-8-2010 23:13 標題: 24" Sniper Kit

Hi, everybody,
i'm new in air soft world, can anyone tell where i can buy the sniper kit for PTW M4??
i went to kong wah st. today, n the sales there told me the king arms kit won't fit in my PTW, what should i do?? i really like that 24" sniper kit......
would someone help please??

[ 本帖最後由 michaelredknapp 於 3-8-2010 23:29 編輯 ]

作者: ayaka 時間: 3-8-2010 23:38

the handguard should fit the ptw receiver
but the barrel is only for the AEG......
and the longest barrel in the market is only 20"

作者: michaelredknapp 時間: 3-8-2010 23:55

Oh, is that mean the longest kit available is 20"??
and could you plz tell me where i can buy this???
thank you very very much.

作者: ayaka 時間: 4-8-2010 00:01

there should be no conversion kit specifically made for the ptw
normally aeg handguards can be installed onto ptw
but you need to buy a ptw outer barrel (longest one is 20")

you can find them in kong wah st.!

作者: michaelredknapp 時間: 4-8-2010 01:22

icic
thank you very much!
u r really helpful, may i ask my last question, as u know i want the 24" in the very beginning, in fact i want it even longer,
but now i know the longest barrel is 20", so i'm thinking if i can add a silencer to make it longer, n fit in a longer PDI inner
barrel, EG: 650mm @@.
do u think it will work??
if it will work, with the power supermax provided, the M4 should be come a very very strong sniper rifle, right???

i know this is a crazy idea, but i really wanna know if it can be work out.....
thank you for answering my stupid question....

作者: Elf 時間: 4-8-2010 01:31

mike, lawrence here

FORGET ABOUT YOUR 24" BIG DICK

作者: michaelredknapp 時間: 4-8-2010 01:45

NO!NO!NO!

i want it BIG, in fact i'm going to get 2 extra upper body, one is the giant monster of cuz,
another one is a 5inch mini dick head......HAHA ^^
hope my idea can work out.......really looking forward to fight with it.

作者: Elf 時間: 4-8-2010 01:46

who's gonna 報位if u go sneaking like me and W?...

作者: michaelredknapp 時間: 4-8-2010 01:53

dun worry la,
i'll still play as i played,
the 5inch is for those (last enemies), when u guys dun need me to 報位......

作者: Elf 時間: 4-8-2010 01:55

you are our exclusive observatory mate

planning to get an extra cylinder set besides the supermax original one?

作者: ayaka 時間: 4-8-2010 01:59

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原帖由 michaelredknapp 於 4-8-2010 01:22 發表

icic
thank you very much!
u r really helpful, may i ask my last question, as u know i want the 24" in the very beginning, in fact i want it even longer,
but now i know the longest barrel is 2 ...

PDI only have 20" inner barrel for the PTW
my PDI 6.01mm 14.5" barrel performce nice grouping and pretty long range~
so I think 20" barrel is already super!

作者: michaelredknapp 時間: 4-8-2010 02:01

yes, in need, no one will play with me if i use the original one with the 5 inch dick head, close range shot with sliver cylinder...............too dirty.
isn't it.

作者: michaelredknapp 時間: 4-8-2010 02:07 標題: 回覆 11# 的帖子

oh,
is 509mm the longest???

anything long than that won't fit ptw??................too bad....

作者: Elf 時間: 4-8-2010 02:35

the m4 ptw cylinder is 66 mm long x 6mm radius
volume of cylinder = πr^2*height - 7460mm^2

volume of a 509mm barrel = 509 mm long x 3.01 mm radius
volume = 14384mm^2

so basically there will be a suction from the cylinder when the cycle completes that draws air out of the barrel.
this is the same as i've told you. this will create a turbulence for the BB and it will definitely go curved

作者: Elf 時間: 4-8-2010 02:40

measurement of m4 cylinder is based on these factors :
1) M4 cylinder is a 3/4 cylinder instead of full cylinder of M16.
2) spring guide, spring and cylinder takes up considerable amount of space.
3) outer diameter of cylinder is 25.5mm, however the inner wall is about 5mm each side, making about 6-7mm radius.

however, considering a M4 363mm inner barrel has about 10k mm^2 volume, the above calculation is indeed too conservative.
I would say a M4 cylinder is roughly 11000mm^2 and that cannot feed a 509 mm barrel at all.

作者: michaelredknapp 時間: 4-8-2010 02:41

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原帖由 Elf 於 4-8-2010 02:35 發表
the m4 ptw cylinder is 66 mm long x 6mm radius
volume of cylinder = πr^2*height - 7460mm^2

volume of a 509mm barrel = 509 mm long x 3.01 mm radius
volume = 14384mm^2

so basically there will b ...

woo........thatz too damn hard........
to make it easy, could u Albert Einstein plz simply tell me watz the longest inner barrel i can have, without any problem....plz.....simply english plz

作者: Elf 時間: 4-8-2010 02:43

講得簡單D就係話, 個氣筒內的空氣唔夠係BB彈離開內管前充滿氣. 拍頭會跟住向後拉, 吸番內管入面既空氣入去.
你會見到BB彈初速會低左, 同埋彈道十分之唔stable.
AEG都會有同一現像, 試下放M4 cylinder落條509管你就會明.

作者: Elf 時間: 4-8-2010 02:44

363mm mate

作者: Elf 時間: 4-8-2010 02:44

in fact you can have a 363 inner barrel and get a 20 inch outer barrel. it works

作者: michaelredknapp 時間: 4-8-2010 02:47

363mm only..........

so what is the size of outer barrel if the inner is 363mm??

作者: Elf 時間: 4-8-2010 02:48

standard M4 length 14.5"

作者: michaelredknapp 時間: 4-8-2010 02:51

well, i dun want my weapon LOOKs long, so if 363mm is the longest barrel the cylinder can carry, i'll go for the shortest outer which fit the inner length....

作者: Elf 時間: 4-8-2010 02:52

the m4 kit it is

i thought u placed the order already though???

作者: sailun412 時間: 4-8-2010 02:55

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原帖由 michaelredknapp 於 3-8-2010 23:13 發表
Hi, everybody,
i'm new in air soft world, can anyone tell where i can buy the sniper kit for PTW M4??
i went to kong wah st. today, n the sales there told me the king arms kit won't fit in my PTW, ...

hey! r u Mr.Ng....????

作者: Elf 時間: 4-8-2010 02:56

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原帖由 sailun412 於 4-8-2010 02:55 發表

hey! r u Mr.Ng....????

咪佢囉

作者: michaelredknapp 時間: 4-8-2010 02:57

yes, i did...... but my idea is to build 2 monster,
one is giant, an other is mini........
now after ur math/phy.........the giant monster is dead, but at least i'll still make it fight well, any idea apart from the inner barrel, wat else should i modify???

作者: michaelredknapp 時間: 4-8-2010 03:01

yes, i'm michael!!
The only warrior fight with no gun.......................but a walkie talkie and team mate

作者: ayaka 時間: 4-8-2010 08:54

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原帖由 Elf 於 4-8-2010 02:43 發表
講得簡單D就係話, 個氣筒內的空氣唔夠係BB彈離開內管前充滿氣. 拍頭會跟住向後拉, 吸番內管入面既空氣入去.
你會見到BB彈初速會低左, 同埋彈道十分之唔stable.
AEG都會有同一現像, 試下放M4 cylinder落條509管你就 ...

How about the red/silver cylinder? can it feed 509mm barrel

作者: NCP013 時間: 4-8-2010 12:00

如果一定要長管的話, 之前 "大tech"有出過一個銅座, 係可以用電鎗管, 不過條電鎗管個hopup位要執到同ptw管一樣

作者: sailun412 時間: 4-8-2010 14:21

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原帖由 Elf 於 4-8-2010 02:56 發表

咪佢囉

then u muz be "威利氏"....

作者: sailun412 時間: 4-8-2010 14:42

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原帖由 michaelredknapp 於 4-8-2010 03:01 發表
yes, i'm michael!!
The only warrior fight with no gun.......................but a walkie talkie and team mate

your baby monster is in my hand now....

作者: michaelredknapp 時間: 4-8-2010 14:56

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原帖由 sailun412 於 4-8-2010 14:42 發表

your baby monster is in my hand now....

???
who r u Mr. sailun.....

作者: sailun412 時間: 4-8-2010 16:11

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原帖由 michaelredknapp 於 4-8-2010 14:56 發表

???
who r u Mr. sailun.....

dont ask...juz believe...& welcome to the real world

作者: yiuchun1993 時間: 4-8-2010 18:40

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原帖由 Elf 於 4-8-2010 02:56 發表

咪佢囉

你知唔知邊個係百人大戰matt?

作者: Elf 時間: 4-8-2010 19:04

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原帖由 sailun412 於 4-8-2010 14:21 發表

then u muz be "威利氏"....

im not that old yet

although 威利氏 is mentally 18 only

作者: sailun412 時間: 4-8-2010 21:00

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原帖由 Elf 於 4-8-2010 19:04 發表

im not that old yet although 威利氏 is mentally 18 only

oh....juz meet him & he stated u r not him too...

作者: CPK 時間: 5-8-2010 14:19

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原帖由 Elf 於 4-8-2010 02:35 發表
the m4 ptw cylinder is 66 mm long x 6mm radius
volume of cylinder = πr^2*height - 7460mm^2

volume of a 509mm barrel = 509 mm long x 3.01 mm radius
volume = 14384mm^2

so basically there will b ...

師兄，PTW 筒的半徑一定唔止 6mm，條數有問題喎。

我度過手頭上的「Systema Professional Challenge Kit 2008 - Parts List (Template 1/1 Scale)」，泵頭 O-ring 直徑 2.3 cm。

[ 本帖最後由 CPK 於 5-8-2010 16:49 編輯 ]

作者: CPK 時間: 5-8-2010 16:36

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原帖由 CPK 於 5-8-2010 14:19 發表

師兄，PTW 筒的半徑一定唔止 6mm，條數有問題喎。

我度過手頭上的「Systema Professional Challenge Kit 2008 - Parts List (Template 1/1 Scale)」，泵頭 O-ring 直徑 2.3 cm。

等小第獻醜

氣筒內半徑約 1.15 cm
故氣筒體積 = r^2 X π X 長 = 1.15 X 1.15 X π X 6.6 = 27.42 cc

槍管內半徑約 3.01 mm = 0.301 cm
509 mm 管體積 = 0.301 X 0.301 X π X 50.9 = 14.49 cc

因為氣筒體積 > 509 mm 管體積

故 Elf 之說法「個氣筒內的空氣唔夠係BB彈離開內管前充滿氣. 拍頭會跟住向後拉, 吸番內管入面既空氣入去.」是否成立？請賜教。

[ 本帖最後由 CPK 於 5-8-2010 16:51 編輯 ]

作者: sailun412 時間: 5-8-2010 17:56

唔.....咁情形....

作者: cw2493 時間: 5-8-2010 19:08

CPK Hing,
How about the volume for the gold / blue / black cylinder?

作者: Elf 時間: 6-8-2010 00:22

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原帖由 CPK 於 5-8-2010 16:36 發表

等小第獻醜

氣筒內半徑約 1.15 cm
故氣筒體積 = r^2 X π X 長 = 1.15 X 1.15 X π X 6.6 = 27.42 cc

槍管內半徑約 3.01 mm = 0.301 cm
509 mm 管體積 = 0.301 X 0.301 X π X 50.9 = 14.49 cc

因為氣 ...

多謝師兄指教. 原來我計錯數, 量錯cylinder半徑.
外徑為25.5mm, 外壁大約2.4/5.1mm, 內徑=18mm左右
cylinder volume = π(18^2)*66 = 67k mm^2

咁計我就錯啦. 多謝CPK計指出錯處, 失禮晒

作者: sailun412 時間: 6-8-2010 03:26

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原帖由 Elf 於 6-8-2010 00:22 發表

多謝師兄指教. 原來我計錯數, 量錯cylinder半徑.
外徑為25.5mm, 外壁大約2.4/5.1mm, 內徑=18mm左右
cylinder volume = π(18^2)*66 = 67k mm^2

咁計我就錯啦. 多謝CPK計指出錯處, 失禮晒

keep on sharing infos, u are the king!

作者: spec.ops. 時間: 6-8-2010 06:01

感謝Elf同CPK兩位師兄分享data,小弟非常受用

作者: CPK 時間: 18-8-2010 10:12

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原帖由 cw2493 於 5-8-2010 19:08 發表
CPK Hing,
How about the volume for the gold / blue / black cylinder?

多謝各位指點，我得紅、金兩筒。呢排好忙，得閒再計金筒體積。
對不起。

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