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有無人睇過 ? 記述2014年烏克蘭抗擊俄國入侵戰爭片

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原帖由 pbay 於 23-2-2018 12:54 發表
其實係咪應該怪責俄方刻意在平民區駐軍同部署飛彈
請證明

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原帖由 loveless 於 23-2-2018 13:00 發表
即係發夢如果香港忽然黎個公投,
政府公佈結果係有83%合資格選民投票,
而97%投票者選擇要脫離中國,
要回歸英國統治,
於是英軍過黎接手,
而中國話要維護國土完整....
所以係法例上不論內地還是香港都冇「獨立公投」選項
好地地肢解自己國家,減低國際話語權的人點睇都係傻仔
其實我個人並不同情蘇聯人同烏克蘭人,不過我更痛恨納粹

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原帖由 pbay 於 23-2-2018 12:09 發表

打呢d旗又點, 有咩實質戰爭罪行做過先 ?
依家俄佬入侵人地國土, 擊落民航機咁大件事就唔講, 講人幾支旗 ?
有無搞笑咗少少
蘇聯剩落既武器烏克蘭自己都大把,隻鑊邊個咩可能嘈到下世紀都未有答案。

西烏當年亦做過種族清洗既事,俄國人、史達林亦然,反正尼件事兩邊個屎忽都唔乾淨,花生可以了

[ 本帖最後由 Hamlet 於 23-2-2018 13:27 編輯 ]

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尼部波蘭人拍既電影可以好清楚瞭解其中一部份點解佢地之間o甘大仇口,不過本片十分血腥,亦有裸露鏡頭,夠秤先好睇

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原帖由 Hamlet 於 23-2-2018 13:22 發表

蘇聯剩落既武器烏克蘭自己都大把,隻鑊邊個咩可能嘈到下世紀都未有答案。

西烏當年亦做過種族清洗既事,俄國人、史達林亦然,反正尼件事兩邊個屎忽都唔乾淨,花生可以了
講黎講去都係當年,
俄國入侵別國同擊落民航機係現行犯黎, 擺在眼前都唔講

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原帖由 pbay 於 23-2-2018 18:22 發表

講黎講去都係當年,
俄國入侵別國同擊落民航機係現行犯黎, 擺在眼前都唔講
唔係我幫俄國佬講說話,山毛櫸導彈烏克蘭你估就無?70年代蘇聯嘢,蘇聯收檔o個年烏克蘭自己都喇佐唔少,如果話有山毛櫸導彈就係犯黎做大前提,烏蘭克個屎忽都唔乾淨係咪先,尼單嘢正如前頭回覆話“懸案”

講打民航機烏克蘭一樣涉嫌打落佐一架以色列飛去俄國既Tu-154添

佢地根本係兩個民族相愛相殺幾百年加上蘇聯一個傻hihi領袖傻hihi之下整落督蘇州屎俾佢地嘆,你o甘上身黎托,關心既認養個烏克蘭妹返屋企暖披竇好過啦

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MH17國際調查團報告指, 導彈係由親俄恐怖份子控制地區射出, 鄰近俄羅斯邊境

在MH-17被擊落前, 附近地區已有16架各類烏克蘭軍機被擊落

從殘骸中確認導彈形號屬山毛櫸導彈(9M38M1導彈), 彈頭形號9N314M
殘骸形號最初獲山毛櫸生產商確認, 是配合Buk M1發射車的9M38M1導彈, 雖然事後生產商受俄方壓力改口供, 推說9M38M1已全部退役及出售外國, 但此說有兩處漏洞:
1.此款導彈所用彈頭9N314M獨特破片造成之蝴蝶型孔洞, 確實偏佈全機;
2.9M38M1在2013俄國軍演以至2015年俄國境內之勝利日巡遊仍有亮相, 詳細考證 : https://www.bellingcat.com/news/ ... to-shoot-down-mh17/

裝有9M38M1導彈的Buk M1發射車, 則被居民發現由俄羅斯偷運入烏克蘭境內發射, 然後運回俄羅斯
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/ ... gcat-investigation/


國際調查團報告全文:
https://www.onderzoeksraad.nl/en ... h-mh17-17-july-2014

media summary :
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ ... sh-Russia-live.html
https://www.theguardian.com/worl ... e-malaysia-airlines

The investigation found:

The missile was fired from an arable field 6km south of the town of Snizhne, an area was under the control of pro-Russia fighters.
The Buk came from Russian territory into eastern Ukraine and was later transported on a white Volvo truck. Witnesses, photographs and video show it escorted by several other vehicles and by “armed men in uniform”.

-Around 100 people have been identified who can be linked to the downing of MH17 or the transport of the Buk.
Witnesses at the launch site near the village of Pervomaiskyi reported hearing “a very loud noise” and “a high whistling sound”. They also saw a plume of smoke.
Investigators are now examining who gave the order to smuggle the Buk system into Ukraine, and who gave the order to shoot down MH17.

-Wilbert Paulissen, the head of the Dutch national detective force, told the press conference: “MH17 was shot down by a 9M38 series missile, launched from a Buk-Telar. This Buk-Telar was brought in from the territory of the Russian Federation, and after launch was subsequently returned to Russian Federation territory.”

-Satellite data from the US and the European Space Agency identified the launch site, along with testimony from numerous witnesses, he said.

-Paulissen said the JIT had examined and ultimately rejected other scenarios. They included the possibility that there was a terrorist attack on board the flight, or that it was shot down by a military aircraft. Radar data from Russia and Ukraine proved there were no other planes in the vicinity.
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MH-17 Investigation Report Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDiLEyT9spI&feature=youtu.be

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