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原帖由 -=亮=- 於 21-1-2007 22:09 發表
我想知多D 英軍58式webbing的歷史
同埋裡面係著咩衫(英叢上衫..綠褲?)
headgear又通常係咩?
我想知所有58式
即係話..我求毒.....
歷史我就不知道
但就由Post war二戰後才用
應是44 webbing之後
58webbing 直至Gulf War 1 仍有人用(非Assault Troop)
多數後勤用

七十年代,八十年代

1. 花衫 + 青褲/ 花褲 + L1A1 / M16系 / L2A3

九十年代 (非Assault Troop仍用58webbing)

2. 花衫 + 花褲 + L85A1

九十年代中期大部份正規部隊已換90webbing
義勇軍RHKR(V)隨了Assualt Troop用90webbing和L85A1外,
其餘仍使用58webbing和L1A1。

[ 本帖最後由 B20_hk 於 21-1-2007 23:53 編輯 ]

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HKMSC with 58 webbing

[ 本帖最後由 B20_hk 於 22-1-2007 00:13 編輯 ]

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原帖由 -=亮=- 於 22-1-2007 05:49 發表
THANK YOU!!
我想問最低長方形係咩POUCH
同埋件花衫應該係95?90? OR更前?
長方形係一幅可包住"天幕式斗縫"的東西

花衫應是90或之前(如金漁黃...)

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原帖由 22nd_SAS 於 22-1-2007 09:56 發表


其實果塊野係比人用黎袋一個好似鏟ge野(長條形,一邊尖一邊平),只係有d 兵鍾意用黎裝poncho咁解
但"鏟"是應該用"H"帶的帆布扣

HKMSC 和RHKR(V)就裝Poncho和蚊脹

啲老兵話:英倫三寶

Poncho,蚊脹和地蓆

英倫三寶也有軍糧版

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原帖由 22nd_SAS 於 22-1-2007 21:00 發表


嚴格黎講果舊野唔算係鏟....
同埋果塊野係入面放poncho同埋"翻叮"(果個字唔識打 sor....)
至於個鏟同lee塊野都有關聯,因為個錘頭係要扣住個ponch roll,唔會就咁得個柄扣住個H帶
你的意思是---

鏟的手柄就扣H帶
鏟的尖咀就扣住個ponch roll

我見44都係咁...

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原帖由 22nd_SAS 於 22-1-2007 21:34 發表


黑圈係放entrenching tool
紅圈係扣住個鏟頭
oh...鋤頭

我記起了...

軍用鋤頭較一般的細

Thanks 22nd SAS

但果塊野內應是放poncho
外面扣鋤頭

[ 本帖最後由 B20_hk 於 22-1-2007 22:44 編輯 ]

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原帖由 22nd_SAS 於 22-1-2007 22:57 發表



my 58 webbing


戰~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~神~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

cool mate

[ 本帖最後由 B20_hk 於 22-1-2007 23:13 編輯 ]

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The P58 was designed in the 1950s the idea being it would be more suitable for mechanised infantry than p37 and p44 which was to cause problems later in the Falklands war which was not a mechanised war, it was issued in 1960 but it was to take some years before it totally replaced all the p37 and p44, the designers of p58 assumed that the troops would not have to march long distances with full marching order, they concentrated on making a set of equipment that would contain a fighting load well and above which a field pack could be perched for short marches. The two orders for wear are called combat equipment fighting order [CEFO] and combat equipment marching order [CEMO], the items to be carried in CEFO included 4 ammunition pouches 4 full SLR magazines [80 rounds] 1 belt of 50 rounds g.p.m.g ammo 2 grenades bayonet and scabbard weapon cleaning kit, kidney pouches,mess tin, combat ration, knife/fork/spoon, washing and shaving kit, foot powder, spare socks, housewife, towel, spare laces, poncho in roll, full waterbottle and mug, lightweight pick or shovel, sandbag, respirator and NBC gear. Carried in the field pack when CEMO was ordered were beret, cap comforter, drawers, parka, shirt, socks,towel gloves, boot cleaning kit, pt shoes, boots dms, sleeping bag. The main feature of p58 is the yoke a padded shoulder harness that distributes weight comfortably. This attaches to a waistbelt supporting ammo pouches a water bottle and NBC gear on the sides, and a pair of kidney pouches at the rear. Below these is a poncho roll. The bayonet is held in loops on the inner face of the left ammo pouch. The webbing from which the p58 equipment is made is stronger and more durable than that of the p44 also it has steel furniture. Its main drawback is the design fault which does not permit the carriage of a rucksack, pack, radio etc on the back with comfort, plus in arctic conditions when wet it froze, these drawbacks showed up starkly in the Falklands war, resulting in its eventual replacement by the pattern 90.

[ 本帖最後由 B20_hk 於 22-1-2007 23:26 編輯 ]

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原帖由 14692 於 23-1-2007 06:12 發表

傘盔, 輕身D
罕物

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原帖由 14692 於 23-1-2007 08:23 發表

電子灣時不時都有既
點解我找唔到......[]

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原帖由 -=亮=- 於 23-1-2007 20:42 發表
可能和香港水警一樣,
用"防撞頭盔"

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原帖由 -=亮=- 於 24-1-2007 06:13 發表

可能會帶呢
用黎止血一流
Field Dress

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原帖由 -=亮=- 於 25-1-2007 06:12 發表

係唔係錦田果度?
7j店,雞地也有,不過只是上衣
錦田果度有埋褲

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原帖由 14692 於 25-1-2007 05:12 發表

錯, 食入面既煙葉都可以用嚟止血
吓?!? 你講真???

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原帖由 -=亮=- 於 26-1-2007 06:08 發表
搵個女兵..問佢有無..點知..佢話得一塊用緊
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Don't think too much

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