Elf

because it's leica.
if you ask me, they are worth every penny.
its not the body that costs, its the lens.
M9 is about 50k yet it's short of supply after years of selling them. price = equilibrium of supply and demand.
sure you can say 5D2 is just 20k and has many more functions than M9. But it's the craftmanship of an M body, the tightness and the ability to take M lenses make it so expensive.
and of course there's the leica red badge.
But seriously, 50k is nothing. any generation of 50 Noct can easily go up to 80k. a modern 35 lux is 30-40k, and on, and on.
the craziest leica collection i have seen in my sight worth about 2 million HK dollars.

Elf

on the other hand, you can challange it's stupid for the film bodies as well.
M3 is the most classic body ever. it goes for about 5k for an okay condition body, 8k for a very good condition.
M6 is the second most common body. it has nothing in addition but metering compared to m3 (and of course other cosmetic stuff..). it goes for about 10k.
M7 is the latest film body. it's basically M6 + Av exposure (aperture priority) it's about 25k.

the extra 20k u pay for an M7 goes to metering and Av priority mode. is it worth it?
logically : PROBABLY NOT.
emotionally : every damn penny.

it's leica

Elf

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原帖由 莊家-犯罪無間 於 17-6-2011 21:30 發表
LUX5只係掛左leica個名
另外,leica快門真係超靜,對焦方面,用得leica的,都係預用手動多過自動

舊個D cotton就係. 新個D金屬嘈到不得了. 當然你用DSLR黎比既話...

Elf

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原帖由 莊家-犯罪無間 於 18-6-2011 00:49 發表

有幸見識過布簾的,真係超靜,不過佢而家用金屬,當然無布咁靜,但比其他dslr都係靜好多

布簾都有分.. 我部M3都靜過M6.

Elf

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原帖由 louisli 於 18-6-2011 14:02 發表
我會覺得係piece of art囉
工藝係一個重要的環節，鏡頭銳利度真係非日本鏡可比

要計利, leica同埋zeiss唔會比canon鏡利.
淨係睇解像度, 好多L鏡高出一段.
leica同zeiss出名係奶色同菜色. 燒片的功藝, 玻璃既物料, 係日本仔無可能追得上.
同zeiss黎計. 依家sony代工既zeiss係笑話唔洗講. 就算係同一枝舊鏡, MIJ係比MIG差.

Elf

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原帖由 莊家-犯罪無間 於 18-6-2011 23:21 發表

聽d前輩講,LEICA幫d鏡片做退火係以年計,而家o個d只係做幾個鐘

依家D leica 鏡..
一味淨係加加加加加ASPH, 大大大大光圈.. 晒氣.
最新枝35/1.4 ASPH係利呀.. 但係已經失去左部份既leicaness ..
玩奶, 唔係一味要中心利, 變形少. 只係個種奶皇既感覺... 新鏡已經無左個種味度

[ 本帖最後由 Elf 於 19-6-2011 00:12 編輯 ]

Elf

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原帖由 louisli 於 19-6-2011 21:33 發表

可能科技進步左唔駛咁耐呢

所以咪做唔出以前既功藝.

Elf

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原帖由 Hkpolice-Psu 於 20-6-2011 13:47 發表
聽說你好似有部~

爛了的M4

Elf

除左M機外, 其他leica都係唔值錢.

Elf

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原帖由 Hkpolice-Psu 於 21-6-2011 12:24 發表


但係m8又好似貴左d....

digital leica好老實講, 唔保值又唔抵玩. 你真係要玩leica, 買部M3/M6啦.

Elf

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原帖由 Hkpolice-Psu 於 21-6-2011 12:47 發表


開頭我都係咁諗, 但係部機唔係我用....我諗住買比老婆的, 我諗佢應該搞唔掂FILM....

我就梗係無問題啦...最緊要係支鏡...

我想搵支5K樓下, 唔知有無35 F2左右既東西呢?如果有TELE就更好啦...

5K樓下有枝summicron-c 40mm f/2應該可以買到. 一枝好平但係好高quality既鏡. 佢既sharpness同35/2差唔多, 但係係35/2既30%價錢.
我好肯定你老婆好快唔會想用. 我自己用緊部M8, 比女性朋友用好快就會話好重, 同埋對焦煩, mon唔靚, etc....
買比老婆買部canon 600D算啦..

Elf

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原帖由 Hkpolice-Psu 於 21-6-2011 12:47 發表


開頭我都係咁諗, 但係部機唔係我用....我諗住買比老婆的, 我諗佢應該搞唔掂FILM....

我就梗係無問題啦...最緊要係支鏡...

我想搵支5K樓下, 唔知有無35 F2左右既東西呢?如果有TELE就更好啦...

同埋RF好少tele. 最出名都係大頭九 (90mm f/2). 90己經好難對焦, 好少人用到135.. 再上就更加無

Elf

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原帖由 Hkpolice-Psu 於 21-6-2011 13:15 發表


其實我諗住有得變焦姐, 唔洗去到咁遠既, 唔知有無24-70之類既東東呢?

小弟先行謝過

有. WADE 16-18-21 f/4. 多謝8萬港幣, 同埋已斷貨.

Elf

仲有枝  Tri elmar 28-35-50 f/4. 平好多, ebay都係4200美金.

Elf

怕無變焦唔好玩leica
怕煩唔好玩leica
怕唔user friendly唔好玩leica
怕菲林唔好玩leica
怕無內置測光唔好玩leica
怕無自動/Av/Tv mode唔好玩leica
怕無自動對焦唔好玩leica
怕重唔好玩leica
怕無閃燈唔好玩leica
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最緊要 ...... 怕貴唔好玩leica