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好難唔知
果位仁兄當人盲ga,係自己facebook放售緊呢位加拿大人的東西...

如果有人識呢個人,想私了,不如叫佢contact返d受害人
好過上黎叫人刪資料啦

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事主的朋友們

大家可以問下阿公資料,
樓主邊度黎,
故勿論我地點幫佢都好
動機都係看不過眼,
黎HK airsoft forum 係樓主主意
因為佢地search過yahoo 起"z"君

佢主要係想gear back , 報警其次
雖然endup 都報左香港同加拿大警
但件事可以說明
網上欺詐
係有跡可尋



Z 君 來自HK , 早前在下收到樓主的一系列求助email , 有詳細 Z 君和樓主的email record.  :



紅字:Z 君
黑字:樓主


From: knoxboland@hotmail.com
To: xxxxxxx@hotmail.com
Subject: HELP! TRADE GONE BAD
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 09:40:00 -0700


Tue, 14 Dec 2010:

"Hey,
I have lots of stuff for sale:
not pictured: AOR2 test bdu set in small regular.
http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee471/ferrotactical/for%20sale/DSCN3035.jpg
http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee471/ferrotactical/for%20sale/DSCN3039.jpg
http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee471/ferrotactical/for%20sale/DSCN3033.jpg
http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee471/ferrotactical/for%20sale/DSCN3037.jpg
http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee471/ferrotactical/for%20sale/DSCN3038.jpg
let me know if you are interested in anything"


Tue, 14 Dec 2010:
Hi,
I am interest in your EAGLE pouch in khaki,and the AOR2 bdu set
do you want to trade?
I have a early gen AOR2 1961A and a CP AOR1 phototype combact shirt

Tue, 14 Dec 2010:
"Hi, which eagle pouch? or are you interested in the whole lot?
what size is the combat shirt?
thank you!"


Wed, 15 Dec 2010:
I am interest in the whole lot,
The combat shirt is small regular,
I also have one set of M-R and S-S Early Gen BHI HPFU
Thanks

Wed, 15 Dec 2010:
"okay I am Interested in the small regular and maybe the medium regular too   I'll hold the MJK stuff for you.
could I get pictures please?
here are other items I have
SEAL used LBT, eagle, and veltye pouches

SEAL used LBT rig

DEVGRU AOR2 test bdu small regular
SEAL ORC PCU L6 medium

WILCOX M600 tailcap for control grip

let me know your offers"

Wed, 15 Dec 2010:
Here is the shirt,
and a EAGLE hydration pouch,
I also interest in the SEAL used LBT rig,the 6094 type
SEAL used LBT, eagle, and veltye pouches lot
AOR2 0612
what is the M600 wilcox tailcap for?
may I have more photos of your AOR2 uniform?
Thanks!!!


Wed, 15 Dec 2010:
"Looks good.
do not need the hydration pouch
sounds good I will get these things seperated and send you lot photos so we know everything is right, then you can start offering me $
the m600 tailcap is for a surefire scout light. it works like the m951 tailcaps with the button and the pressure switch, though I do not have the pressure switch. it can also be plugged into a wilcox control grip.
I will get you more photos of the uniform later today, but for now here is the info I have on them:
"They are Made by CLAW gear but Its not a classic clawgear product.
This set has been given to me by a friend who got it from a gold team operator.
Before Crye precision AOR2 sets, devgru asked many brands to make some sets in AOR2.
Otte , beyond and claw gear made some sets.
those sets was all different, that's because all thoses brands didn't have the same AOR2 fabric...Or designs
The set you have is an authentic product...not bought from clawgear...." "


Wed, 15 Dec 2010:
OK,
also list what you have,
I will make a list for u soon


Thur, 16 Dec 2010:
"here is everything you have requested:

1. Eagle Industries SFLCS IFAK medic pouch
2. Eagle Industries SFLCS canteen pouch
3. Allied Industries SFLCS DMR mag pouch
4. Allied Industries SFLCS triple shingle mag pouches
5. Eagle Industries SFLCS 100rd nutsack pouch
6. Eagle Industries SFLCS double M4 mag pouches
7. Eagle Industries SFLCS single M4 mag pouch
8. Eagle Industries SFLCS shotgun shell folding pouch
9. SEAL used BHI triple M4 pouch
10. Allied Industries SFLCS MAP
11. SEAL used Veltye swimmer pistol mag molle pouch
12. SEAL used LBT tan molle frag pouch
13. SEAL used LBT tan molle popflare pouch
14. SEAL used LBT tan molle large radio pouch
15. SEAL used LBT tan molle triple m4 mag pouch
16. SEAL used Eagle FSBE molle fb pouch
17. Eagle Industries SFLCS double stack FB pistol pouches
18. SEAL used LBT tan molle admin with pistol pocket
19. SEAL used Allied Industries FSBE IFAK
20. SEAL used early gen 6094 molle vest, tan
21. Allied Industries SFLCS suspenders
22. DEVGRU gold team claw gear test AOR2 uniform S/R
more pics of the aor2 set:








more pics of the 6094:




other stuff I have for sale:

1. BOLLE goddles with velcro to helmet mod
2. INOVA VIP
3. TASC headset
4. Surefire helmet light mount
5. Wilcox control grip m600 scout tailcap
6. Adventure Lights VIP IR/green strobe
7. CAT
8. CAA g25 AR grip
9. Insight peq pressure switch
10. SOF bladetech Glock with X200 kydex holster
11. BHI riggers belt medium I believe

1. SO TECH jungle camo molle hyrdration pouch
2. SO TECH jungle camo molle FB kydex m4 fastmag pouches
3. SO TECH jungle camo molle small radio pouch
4. SO TECH jungle camo molle SAW pouch
5. Eagle Industries complete IFAK with all the fixins"

Fri, 17 Dec 2010:
I will take photos of mine tonight,some of my gear stay in my office,
Do you collect vintage gear?such as LBT 1195..90s Seals Gear
For modern Gear
I have
CP AOR1 Phototype Combat Shirt SMALL REGULAR
BHI HPFU EARLY GEN Small Regular and Medium Regular,I have two sets
LBT 1961A First GEN CT
LBT 1961A First GEN AOR2
LBT 1961A UCP
LBT 1961G CT
LBT 6094 Slick MC
LBT 2649E-CT for 1961
LBT 2616A Medium Magazine Dump Pouch CB and CT
MLCS HARNESS Early Gen Black Buckles
MLCS H HARNESS Tan Buckles
SFLCS RRV Tan Buckles
SFLCS PC with CUM
KHAKI MBSS L/XL
OD AI MBSS S/M with mag pouch,admin pouch and MAP
I also have some SUREFIRE M952 with arms mount
I also want to take
5. Wilcox control grip m600 scout tailcap
6. Adventure Lights VIP IR/green strobe
7. CAT
8. CAA g25 AR grip
9. Insight peq pressure switch
10. SOF bladetech Glock with X200 kydex holster
11. BHI riggers belt medium I believe
sorry,i may not take the AOR2 uniform because the color not match my 6094
how much is the AOR1 2586 worth?
how do we carry out the trade?
My friend can get one set of NAVY CUSTOM AOR1 set from DEVGRU,but the price was crazy to me...if you interest,I can get one set for you
He said USD$800 for the pants and $1200 for full set,new condition
I am happy to trade with you here
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs495.ash2/76885_461757024182_780144182_5267780_4814966_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1181.snc4/150312_453523354182_780144182_5167935_7479490_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs564.ash2/148673_457864849182_780144182_5222936_4043357_n.jpg

Fri, 17 Dec 2010:
"Hi, not interested in the packs
But I have a AOR2 Mystery Ranch grizzly you might be interested in?
Also have an old MLCS kit with black zippers and the while works on its way to me....dont really need it.
"Do you collect vintage gear?"
Just doing the modern thing right now, unless its something I can flip because I kind of need money right now.
interested in prices on these:
"CP AOR1 Phototype Combat Shirt SMALL REGULAR
LBT 1961A First GEN CT
OD AI MBSS S/M with mag pouch,admin pouch and MAP"
"I also want to take"
5. Wilcox control grip m600 scout tailcap $200
6. Adventure Lights VIP IR/green strobe $100
7. CAT $20
8. CAA g25 AR grip $15
9. Insight peq pressure switch $30
10. SOF bladetech Glock with X200 kydex holster $60
11. BHI riggers belt medium I believe $18
$443 total
And what are your offers on the whole Tan lot?
"sorry,i may not take the AOR2 uniform because the color not match my 6094"
no worries. it is slightly off because it is their test go.
"how much is the AOR1 2586 worth?"
$600 work for you?
"how do we carry out the trade?"
add up values and what not and see where that puts us.
"My friend can get one set of NAVY CUSTOM AOR1 set from DEVGRU,but the price was crazy to me...if you interest"
tell him I'd buy 32R aor1 combat pants for $600
let me know
thank you"


Fri, 17 Dec 2010:
Thank you for your fast reply,
Forgot to tell you that I come from Hong Kong and I bought something from you before,
for those ''whole Tan lot''
i want to take them all,
+
5. Wilcox control grip m600 scout tailcap $200
6. Adventure Lights VIP IR/green strobe $100
7. CAT $20
8. CAA g25 AR grip $15
9. Insight peq pressure switch $30
10. SOF bladetech Glock with X200 kydex holster $60
11. BHI riggers belt medium I believe $18
$443 total
and the 6094 type plate carrier,if the price is reasnable,
I will take it too
32R aor1 combat pants for $600,
He said if USD$700,it is no problem and he will get you a new one,with pads
The OD MBSS also include a double mag pouch


Fri, 17 Dec 2010:
"Yeah that is excellent I contacted some of my past buyers privately before I list anything, you being one of them
let me know your offer for the tan lot. or would you rather me add it up and let you know?
for the LBT 6094 type vest $120?
How much for the MBSS with map and all?
can you show your friend my photos and see if he would be interested in any sort of a trade to get the pants cost lower?
Thank you"

Fri, 17 Dec 2010:
is it orginal ?
how much is it?
3. TASC headset

Fri, 17 Dec 2010:
"yes real deal davies headset $110"

Fri, 17 Dec 2010:
he will take it

Fri, 17 Dec 2010:
"Sounds good, so $590 for AOR1 CRYE precision combat pants in 32 Regular
with gen 2 pads I hope ?"

Fri, 17 Dec 2010:
Yes,
Brand new in bag gen 2 pad in tan

Fri, 17 Dec 2010:
"tell Him I will do it please
As for our deal I will pass on the mbss and 1961...well I would maybe take the 1961 but I would just be selling it unfortunately so I'd rather not.
And the shirt I am unsure of right now"


Fri, 17 Dec 2010:
sorry for my English
Do you mean you take the 1961A and MBSS but not the shirt?
For the pants,I will collect money for my friend and he will get it for you from US,and it takes 2 weeks,
But he said he want to collect the money first
Thanks

Fri, 17 Dec 2010:
"I will not take them. and I am still undecided on the shirt.
That is fine. since you are buying stuff from me, we will just minus that amount off what you will be paying me and give it directly to him.
will that work for you?
I also have this:
please show all your friends
(PICTURES OF MLCS KIT)"

Fri, 17 Dec 2010:
I am also don't have much cash now,
If you do not take anything from me,
I can't afford all of them,
by the way,
How much for the full kit?

Fri, 17 Dec 2010:
"okay I will think of what to take then.
Let me know offers for the whole kit please"

Fri, 17 Dec 2010:
for the kit,
just asking it for anoter friend of mine,
If you want to take the CP AOR1 pants 32R,
please send the money first,because I've to collect it for my friend,
The package will leave the USA before xmas,should be today or coming Monday,
he ordered a lot from a US seller.
and we have paid a lot to him,
only some of us still looking for TAN gear,most of my friend go to AOR already,
I will be happy if we can trade for the kit and other Tan gear lot
because we don't have much cash now

Fri, 17 Dec 2010:
"let me know what his offer is for the kit please
how about this:
you owe me $1260
I'll take the combat shirt for $400
leaving you owing $860
you pay your friend $590
you pay me $270 plus shipping and pp and I will get the lot of everything shipped out.
does that work for you?"


Fri, 17 Dec 2010:
can you also take the MBSS for USD $550 ,with MAP and all pouch ?

Fri, 17 Dec 2010:
(he offered a opscore ballistic fast helmet)
"No thank you on the helmet.
I would prefer to do this:
"you owe me $1260
I'll take the combat shirt for $400
leaving you owing $860
you pay your friend $590
you pay me $270 plus shipping and pp and I will get the lot of everything shipped out.
does that work for you?"
If you can't do that at all what would be your best price on the 1961 first gen"


Fri, 17 Dec 2010:
Can you take it at $550?
My friend just bought one at $650,
$550 is my best price,
is it ok?

Fri, 17 Dec 2010:
"I can't afford them both really right now. I could take the 1961 for $550 instead of the shirt
or maybe the 1961 and shirt for $800"


Fri, 17 Dec 2010:
Will you consider $850 for both ?
I buy your ''whole tan lot'' to resell locally,
I can't afford a lot this time

Fri, 17 Dec 2010:
"Yes I will do that.
new outcome:
you owe me $1260
I'll take the combat shirt and 1961 for $850
leaving you owing $410 plus shipping
you pay your friend $410 towards the pants
I send him the rest which is $180
It is okay for me to send the TASC headset with your lot? "


Fri, 17 Dec 2010:
Yes,
Please send it with
For the process,
I will tell my friend to comfirm to take on 32R AOR1 pants for you,
You send the USD$180(send it as personal payment if you can,it can save 4% paypal fees)
After that,I will send the package of yours and you send the package of mine,
and  the AOR1 pants from my friend should arrive after the christmas holiday of HONG KONG,that is 27/12,they said it would be send by DHL express...
And I will told him to send the pants after I have the package from you
is that fine?


Fri, 17 Dec 2010:
"are you going to send my stuff EMS express?
Canada post shipping is expensive I will get you a quote
Thank you"


Mon, 20 Dec 2010:
Hi,
Your package will go tomorrow
What about mine?


Mon, 20 Dec 2010:
"Hey sorry I was not at the office all weekend.
EMS 5 day express to HK is $170 CAD
you can paypal it if you would like?"


Mon, 20 Dec 2010:
My credit card is over limit this month,
Do you mind if I throw a EAGLE AOR1 hyfration pouch and a BHI HPFU pants M-R instead of the $170


Mon, 20 Dec 2010:
"Sure man that will work. Much appreciated!
It will go out today then.  
are you able to send yours express too please?
let me know tracking today
Thank you very much"

[ 本帖最後由 bonzonie 於 10-1-2011 19:30 編輯 ]

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Tue, 21 Dec 2010:
Hi,
My employee send your package for me today,
I will get you the tracking number before xmas if possible,
Do you have the tracking number of mine?
Thanks

Tue, 21 Dec 2010:
"Could you please get me the tracking number as soon as possible please
Thank you so much"

Wed, 22 Dec 2010:
Really sorry,
I have to apologise here,
I mix up something with another buyer of mine,
Your package still in my office,and I forgot to get you name and address!
how stupid i am.
may I have your address and name here,i still have one day here to post it before the holiday
I apologise,I got too much trade this month,
luckily,i didn't send it to another guy,
my bad


Tue, 21 Dec 2010:
"Hmmm, Okay
Please let me know the express tracking number tomorrow as soon as shipped.
Riley Boland
88 Fairview Crescent S.E.
Calgary, Alberta
T2H 0Z6
Canada
please put this on the customs label:
$75 value
mark as a "gift"
contents "nylon clothing"
Much appreciated,
Riley"

Wed, 22 Dec 2010:
will let u know in an Hour,
Please also let me know mibe =)
i am so excited with it

Wed, 22 Dec 2010:
Here is your tracking number
RB266031785HK
Please let me know if you have mine
Thanks


Wed, 22 Dec 2010:
"Hey man, when are my pants going to be posted?
I just want to confirm ont hose once again to be safe:
AOR1, 32Reg, Crye combat pants, Navy cut, gen 2 tan pads.
let me know
Thanks!"


Thu, 23 Dec 2010:
It should arrive next week,
and i will post it when it arrive,asap
did you sned the package of mine?
I have throw a EAGLE AOR1 hyfration pouch and a BHI HPFU pants M-R into your package,
you should receive it soon
please write back to me
thank you


Wed, 22 Dec 2010:
"sorry lost in translation, so the pants are on their way to you and you will then ship them out?
because before you told me they were shipping from the states directly
yes EE132687288CA
www.canadapost.ca"


Thu, 23 Dec 2010:
Yes,
my friend ordered a lot from US and it needed to send everything to HK first

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大家用個腦去諗下啦~呢個post都有差吾多一日.
一定已經有認識呢個買家既game友通知左佢發生左咁既事.
去到而家.呢個買家都吾蒲頭講兩句.係咪有D問題呢!

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已經知道依件事堅到堅抽~
而事主你當事人緊係知道發生咩事吧~


ar 馬丁哥洗定pat pat 吧~

[ 本帖最後由 KILLMACHINE 於 10-1-2011 16:53 編輯 ]

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原帖由 coke 於 10-1-2011 16:18 發表


我同意方方...

無理由一五一十咁擺曬上黎, 仲可以contact me for it

但係點解要post相呢?  況且, 呢D咁既小新聞, 一日都幾十單, 佢咁都穩得返出黎?  

記住人地係身在加拿大, 就算我係香港, 我都未必會 ...
你認識個買家架???

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亦有legitkit 網主和在下談及CGF 此post 的"z"君 , 文中提及的"Wey Ferro"正正是樓主resluchub , 亦是Ferro Concept Gear 的負責人



Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 14:42:26 -0500
Subject: Re: scammer
From: service@lgtkit.com
To: xxxxxxxx@hotmail.com

Bonc,

Thanks for the update ! Also, thanks for helping Wey Ferro with his dealings with Martin Yim. He (Martin) has been a pain to me, buying 80+ items off eBay and not paying. Luckily I didn't ship anything, so it was more frustrating then a real loss of money, but I consider Ferro a friend of mine and he lost quite a bit to him as you know.

Legit Kit

Email: service@lgtkit.com
Web: www.lgtkit.com

[ 本帖最後由 bonzonie 於 10-1-2011 17:00 編輯 ]

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原帖由 於 10-1-2011 16:51 發表
唉....香港搵人trade野已經好難..爆單野...以後更難...
you right..

下圖果個"a lot"字眼 ,實際可能係同一人 ......

[ 本帖最後由 bonzonie 於 10-1-2011 17:22 編輯 ]

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原帖由 bonzonie 於 10-1-2011 17:20 發表




you right..

下圖果個"a lot"字眼 ,實際可能係同一人 ......
其實係唔係應該集埋哂d受害者既資料
一次過交比HKP呢?睇怕唔止一兩單

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原帖由 seamoncheng 於 10-1-2011 17:42 發表

其實係唔係應該集埋哂d受害者既資料
一次過交比HKP呢?睇怕唔止一兩單
如第一頁 #5 所指,
受害者不只一人

所以我都希望那些外國人, 用gd1893師兄的方法 ,先各自report
警方自會整理


而E家樓主報左警,我相信自有人處理

[ 本帖最後由 bonzonie 於 10-1-2011 18:24 編輯 ]

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件事甘複雜,我覺得最好都係報警,交比D專業人事處理

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原帖由 ohnavi 於 10-1-2011 19:53 發表
件事甘複雜,我覺得最好都係報警,交比D專業人事處理
受害者已報(香港及當地)

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引用:
原帖由 coke 於 10-1-2011 16:18 發表


我同意方方...

無理由一五一十咁擺曬上黎, 仲可以contact me for it

但係點解要post相呢?  況且, 呢D咁既小新聞, 一日都幾十單, 佢咁都穩得返出黎?  

記住人地係身在加拿大, 就算我係香港, 我都未必會 ...
如果你同你個方方係識得Z君嘅, 不如你地通知佢, 叫佢上來浧清下好過啦, 好過係度發表咁多你地嘅個人認為, 個人覺得咁, 我地係度都係想幫樓主, 其實同時都係幫緊Z君, 如果樓主係屈Z君嘅, 只要Z君來三口六面講清楚, 咪清楚晒咯

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其實依家件事都好清楚

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