lololo

In a surprising reversal that follows years of effort to design a one-of-a-kind commando rifle, the U.S. military's Special Operations Command has abruptly decided to abandon the new SOCOM Combat Assault rifle – the "SCAR," as the rifle is commonly known – in favor of previously-fielded carbines.

http://www.military.com/news/art ... cels-new-rifle.html

m82a1m40a1

引用:

原帖由 lololo 於 26-6-2010 14:46 發表
In a surprising reversal that follows years of effort to design a one-of-a-kind commando rifle, the U.S. military's Special Operations Command has abruptly decided to abandon the new SOCOM Combat Assa ...

都係將d錢轉買FN野姐........
Mk-17 SCAR-H
Mk-13 Enhanced Grenade Launchers
Mk-20 Sniper Support Rifle

[ 本帖最後由 m82a1m40a1 於 26-6-2010 14:56 編輯 ]

101653

唔知咁樣會唔會令民間市場快D出現全自動版SCAR呢..........

ps. 有冇統計過有幾多個美軍用雪卡用到斷手指骨?

[ 本帖最後由 101653 於 26-6-2010 16:59 編輯 ]

lololo

Are you sure?

bonzonie

" SOCOM said it will instead purchase additional Mk-17 variants that use the heavier 7.62 mm round, more Mk-13 Enhanced Grenade Launchers, and a newly-designated Mk-20 Sniper Support Rifle "

-l-

from: http://kitup.military.com/2010/06/socom-cancels-mk-16-scar.html

Two well-informed industry analysts tell me that SCAR-maker FNH-USA will try to sell SOCOM on the idea of a Mk-17 common receiver that can be turned into a 5.56 or other caliber by switching out part of the lower receiver. So FNH-USA is positioning itself to rescue the Mk-16 through the Mk-17. But there’s no indication that SOCOM is biting.

martinmhk

引用:

原帖由 lololo 於 26-6-2010 16:52 發表
Are you sure?

....師兄...
ssr 都唔錯... ...
起碼我覺得我入手m14後...
我下一目標係m14 gbb 或 mk17 ssr..

ayaka

其實mk17唔係已經有長槍管ver咩?
點解又要整支ssr呢??





ps. e支幾鬼正wor~


[ 本帖最後由 ayaka 於 27-6-2010 00:58 編輯 ]

051039

佢話Mk16 ge performance advantage唔夠M4 series
買Mk16曬左好多錢
而家比M4s用ge配件好多都唔可以放落Mk16度
而FNH-USA就同SOCOM講
"最多我比D配件你，將Mk17轉個5.56口徑la，唔好連5.56步槍都唔要我地la "
個人意見：
關於performance advantage ge問題
雖然Mk16冇M4禁易卡彈
但得600RPM
M4都有750-900RPM
係CQC特別顯得唔夠快
(人地用AK-47同你一樣RPM，但人地用7.62X39 M43，你？唉
6.8 SPC同6.5 Grendel ge出現就係因為5.56太廢，連中幾粒都仲有還擊之力)
當然係中距離RPM低D壓槍會好D，反而會準D la
仲會因為鬆開板機ge時間唔洗禁短易冇禁浪費D子彈
(重申RPM唔代表一切，但係CQC，RPM有一定影響，特別係D火力細ge槍)
重有就係Mk16重過M4
Mk16 STD - 14.5" Barrel - Weight 3.29 kg (Empty)
M4 - 14.5" Barrel - Weight 2.7 kg (Empty)
重量美佬最敏感
由將M14取代M1開始
到用M16取代M14
到XM29 OICW被Ban(5.5 kg empty and 6.8 kg loaded (Objective) 8.2 kg loaded (actual))
到XM8出現(要輕過M4)
都係因為美佬話把槍要輕D
Mk16仲重過M4
(話說HK416係沙漠測試中ge卡彈次數多少少
"該次測試中，SCAR卡彈226次，遜於XM8的127次和11次嚴重卡彈，但是贏過M4的882次卡彈和HK 416的233次， 此測試結果和之前對現行M4和M16的2006年測試結果一樣；和2007年秋季三強限定標之前的一次小測試也一樣，第二次測試時M4加強潤滑後減為307次卡彈，但是一調到相同條件下現有M4還是卡彈882次上下。" - 維基百科FN SCAR)
雖然HK416仲重Mk16多D
但因為：
HK416有好多配件同M4一樣(機槍頭就當然唔係la)
HK416 ge操作(唔係把槍ge槍機種類)同M4係一樣(H&K特燈唔改操作)
之前USMC完左個IAR
係H&K贏左
H&K只係將把HK416換左16吋重槍管同加長左條橋
美佬仲幫佢改埋名叫M27 IAR
如果落實左將M27 IAR配發比USMC用
又有個好處就係配件可以共用
-----個人意見完-----
SOCOM決定唔用Mk16取代舊有ge M4
反而用SOPMOD M4或HK416泥取代
不過因為FNH-USA仲同SOCOM "bit"緊：
"最多我比D配件你，將Mk17轉個5.56口徑la，唔好連5.56步槍都唔要我地la "
所以5.56口徑ge Mk17仲有可能出現(唔知到時會唔會叫番做Mk16呢 )

[ 本帖最後由 051039 於 23-7-2010 15:17 編輯 ]

McDull

無摺尾

061084

等緊VFC出SCAR-H GBB

051039

引用:

原帖由 061084 於 23-7-2010 15:23 發表
等緊VFC出SCAR-H GBB

VFC好似出左Mk17 SSR
但做得嘛嘛地似

macfabrica

好似民用半自動版先咁長?
好似民用係要過某個尺吋數槍管(好似16")
有錯請指正

051039

引用:

原帖由 macfabrica 於 23-7-2010 15:43 發表
好似民用半自動版先咁長?
好似民用係要過某個尺吋數槍管(好似16")
有錯請指正

咩所謂3級武器
我見FN出ge美國半自動民用野都係16吋槍管FS2000, PS90
留意快慢機只有S同1
冇A
所以係半自動民用型SCAR-L

[ 本帖最後由 051039 於 23-7-2010 15:45 編輯 ]

Oscarpanzer

引用:

原帖由 macfabrica 於 23-7-2010 03:43 PM 發表
好似民用半自動版先咁長?
好似民用係要過某個尺吋數槍管(好似16")
有錯請指正

唔同ｓｔａｔｅ，唔同ｒｕｌｅｓ
ｅｇ加州唔可以用ｆｏｌｄ　ｓｔｏｃｋ，槍管ｌｉｍｉｔ