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XANGA睇到呢篇野--未夠16,係唔係大晒??

facebook同d網友玩得過火左,各位睇下今日既新聞
http://hk.news.yahoo.com/article/090411/4/bmre.html

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文章十分煽情,非常主觀!
誰對誰錯!?佢兩個自己最清楚!
我哋都不在現場,不要莽判斷!

但我可解答一些疑問!

疑問
(一) 既然未夠16係屬於嚴重案件,點解警員不就事件為被告人或提被告可剪指甲套取衣服纖維,以便證明自身清白.?

答(一)有衣服纖維........並不代表非禮,無............也不代表無接觸過!

(二) 當時被告剛剛放工,身穿著公司的巴士司機制服,一般人都能分辨,莫非不怕事主時後追究?但法官話這非明顯制服,當然啦,個官都唔搭巴士,當然分唔到啦.睇怕佢只識分囚犯,差人同法官衫

答(二)穿制服同有無犯法,完全沒有關係!

(三) 全香港都有許多人,拿著背包出街,個官竟然話原告人可能懷疑被告背包架放攻擊性武器,所以不敢反抗,(乜都佢講),實質被告袋中只是放有溫馨飯盒及外套.

答(三)呢個官都好主觀,不過好多女仔被非禮都不會即時出聲,每個人都反應不一!

(四) 如果,只是兩首mp3歌仔的時間,被告可做出撓著女事主的手,又撫乳房,又伸手入裙底入內褲,是否要兩隻手一起做,才能在這麼短的時間完成?就算單手完成過程,動作都難免過大,相信總有人看見異樣.因為當時另一邊座位,後面前面都有很多乘客,但法官認為乘客可能會給椅背阻礙視線,隔離可能會俾被告身體阻礙視線.(冇得講)

答(四)無得講!

(五)警員不應給女原告差不多兩三個鐘之後,才由朋友陪同往警察局落口供,有好多故事都可以自編完成.應當由女警在警局相陪,直至家人抵達,

答(五)事主有佢權利,大把人報完案話唔得閒,要過幾日先俾口供!

(六) 被告說女事主當時係將手袋拿起順勢放在大腿上,但佢同警察說是放在背部,試想,您係一個女孩子,穿著短裙,手袋點會放背部,況且是由東涌到天水圍的長途巴士,袋中有銀包電話,會否覺得不適?而女方更在第一份口供說當時的後座有很多的空位,第2份口供作出了更改,說後座是滿曬人的,而體位的問題,又係一個重大的疑點

答(六)當然是個疑問,但多少人和放手袋位置,都不是非禮重點!



好多非禮案若無第三者目擊,一般都會信哂個女仕!

在判案前,法官不能看被告之個人背景資料!因恐先入為主!
在判案後才可參考,用來量定判刑!

巴士司機有無被屈可能?當然有啦!

但重點是「一個好人並不等於沒有非禮一個壞女該?!」

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原帖由 阿Fee 於 12-4-2009 09:58 發表
facebook同d網友玩得過火左,各位睇下今日既新聞
http://hk.news.yahoo.com/article/090411/4/bmre.html
又一宗網絡欺凌!

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原帖由 seals 於 12-4-2009 10:43 發表
文章十分煽情,非常主觀!
誰對誰錯!?佢兩個自己最清楚!
我哋都不在現場,不要莽判斷!

但我可解答一些疑問!

疑問
(一) 既然未夠16係屬於嚴重案件,點解警員不就事件為被告人或提被告可剪指甲套取 ...
請客觀,睇完個法庭記錄d野再評論,謝
你我夜空中約定了,記住......

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呢個故事教訓女性千其唔好做港女
有咩爭論,即使贏左
網民都唔服
到時私人資料就不再私人了

題外話
我覺得而家d「港女」係蠻夷黎嫁喎!!

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原帖由 harris 於 12-4-2009 12:10 發表

請客觀,睇完個法庭記錄d野再評論,謝
明得晒~!!
好似係判詞來wo~!!
落雨不怕~落雪也不怕~就算寒冷大風雪落下~~~~

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原帖由 高!高!高! 於 12-4-2009 12:46 發表

明得晒~!!
好似係判詞來wo~!!
個官講d野,除左野蠻外,唔知講乜好,完全疑點利益歸於原告!還我法治!

[ 本帖最後由 harris 於 12-4-2009 13:01 編輯 ]
你我夜空中約定了,記住......

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[10] In considering this ground I feel it is important to bear in mind that the magistrate did not say that he accepted Miss Chow’s evidence about the occupancy of the top deck to be accurate but simply that the evidence was not "significantly" shaken by evidence from the bus company and its representative.

[11]She was giving evidence two months after the incident. She was not saying there was nobody behind her. Her attention is unlikely to have been focused on the people behind her.

[16] Having considered the evidence concerned I consider this was probably not a discrepancy at all but simply a matter of translation as a result of the ambiguity in Chinese between "hand" and "arm". When she was giving evidence in court the initial translation of what she was saying was that it was his hand that had swept across her breast. It was only after she gave a demonstration that it was realised that what she was talking about was his elbow


In both her evidence and in her statement she had said that the appellant had then caressed her thigh under her skirt. In her witness statement, but not in court, she had referred to him then using his elbow to press against her breast several times.

[32] I find that the magistrate correctly and properly came to the conclusion that the appellant was guilty of the offence charged. I am satisfied that this was the correct verdict in this case.

[ 本帖最後由 Elf 於 12-4-2009 13:25 編輯 ]
若法律本身就不公義,守法只會淪為社會不公義的助力而已。

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原帖由 Elf 於 12-4-2009 13:11 發表
[10] In considering this ground I feel it is important to bear in mind that the magistrate did not say that he accepted Miss Chow’s evidence about the occupancy of the top deck to be accurate but sim ...
唔該睇晒全部野先,唔通佢話因為我冇足夠證據但因為感性因素所以咁判咩
你我夜空中約定了,記住......

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原帖由 harris 於 12-4-2009 12:10 發表

請客觀,睇完個法庭記錄d野再評論,謝
我都好客觀,我都無幫邊一個!
我舉d例分析吓啫!

請你看看自己的結語!
呢d就叫主觀
看完真係火都來x埋,這就是法律面前窮人xx的典範???
個官x!個律帥x!班差佬x!條八婆更加是x人中的x人!!!
看個八婆張相,咁的死豬x會有人想非禮佢?非禮她的簡直是功德無量了!
這個世界,是不是真的已經完全失去了正義?而家未夠16真係大x哂嗎?
如果條八婆而家係我面前,我保證我會打x佢!
渴望能再次見到公義…如果各位耐心看完的朋友對公義還有一絲渴求的話
請在FACEBOOK加進這個GROUP,希望各位願意獻出自己少少的力量…
我堅信,如果這是一場戰鬥,我們絕對是為了正義而戰!

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原帖由 harris 於 12-4-2009 12:56 發表

個官講d野,除左野蠻外,唔知講乜好,完全疑點利益歸於原告!還我法治!
我同意法官用了主觀的看法!
有道理應上訴,在網上人生攻擊,對控辯相方都無好處!
切勿被人利用,以至自己陷入法網呀!

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原帖由 seals 於 12-4-2009 13:51 發表


我都好客觀,我都無幫邊一個!
我舉d例分析吓啫!

請你看看自己的結語!
呢d就叫主觀
看完真係火都來x埋,這就是法律面前窮人xx的典範???
個官x!個律帥x!班差佬x!條八婆更加是x人 ...
果d唔係我結論,我係100%fwd過來的
你我夜空中約定了,記住......

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原帖由 harris 於 12-4-2009 13:56 發表

果d唔係我結論,我係100%fwd過來的
Sorry !!
我唔會了你!

對不起!

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我睇晒先excerpt最重要的過黎
若法律本身就不公義,守法只會淪為社會不公義的助力而已。

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其實警察在事件中角式很被動!

現場可以做的......如找目擊証人.......CCTV...我相信都做咗!
應該係無!

一對一,警方無得唔信,有疑問的話!
會再攞補充口供,呈清疑點,
都係50/50就會攞Legal,
Legal話告就告,就放就放!
報案人的背景是會考慮,但不是主要的因數!
不是就學「狼來了」故事,就算佢話了三次大話,第四次報警你都要做!

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