WAIKO01

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原帖由 Henry 於 9-2-2007 04:46 發表
if you ever by any chance magically end up in central Tx, i have a range that you can shoot up to 400m, you can then test out 5.45x39, 5.56x45, 7.62x39, 7.62x51, 7.62x54r, 30-06 and 7.92x57, all side by side.. basically, between my friends and i we have most of the popular military cartriges, and since we're starting a university shooting club, we'll have more firearms to pool between us!!!

my personal experience with all these rounds would be the same old saying, there's not a single round that would outperform all others in all aspects, but there are cool little things that you observe, like the 5.56 shoots through 1inch steel at 200m while the 7.62 doesn't even leave too much of a dent, and the accuracy of 7.62x54r rifles are actually very good for the price you pay for them

then you could also play with handgun ballistics... we've got everything ranging from .22LR, to 9mm, to .40 to .45 to .357mag and .44mag and one of my friends even has a .454 casull!!!

無知一問:.454 casull是怎樣的子彈?

Henry

i just took these so you'd have a better idea on the .454


common pistol rounds, left to right:
.22LR, 9mm Luger/9mm Parabelum, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, .38 special(yep the same one the HKPD uses, and the one on the far right would be the .454 Casull



Common modern assault rifle rounds:
7.62x39, 5.45x39, 5.56x45, 7.62x51, 7.62x54R


and this is how a .454 casull compares to a 9mm and a Sig

Henry

they're all 7.62x39

14692

.454 casull
go hunting?

sunny

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原帖由 14692 於 13-2-2007 08:09 發表
.454 casull
go hunting?

Yep.  It's not bad for deer hunting

sunny

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原帖由 Henry 於 13-2-2007 07:01 發表
i just took these so you'd have a better idea on the .454


common pistol rounds, left to right:
.22LR, 9mm Luger/9mm Parabelum,  ...

Isn't that 9mm Luger is not the same 9mm Parabelum

sunny

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原帖由 WAIKO01 於 13-2-2007 02:24 發表
我不知這樣說對不對,中國的63式其實是一枝裝了ak匣的sks?另外,還想問問最底的那張圖sks不是用7.62x39的嗎?

All SKS use 7.62X39

14692

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原帖由 sunny 於 13-2-2007 22:02 發表



Yep.  It's not bad for deer hunting

打熊人

Paul

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原帖由 WAIKO01 於 13-2-2007 02:24 發表
我不知這樣說對不對,中國的63式其實是一枝裝了ak匣的sks?另外,還想問問最底的那張圖sks不是用7.62x39的嗎?

唔係
因為63式係全自動突擊兵槍,甚至有機關可以改連射擊速
,而SKS只有單發。

Henry

read up my friend, read up:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9_mm_Luger_Parabellum

9mm luger, 9mm parabellum and 9mm luger parabellum are the same things, noone knows what 9mm parabellum is here in the US, it's called 9mm luger
yep, it's the same cartriage the germans used in WW2 for their Luger's, MP40's and their P38's... and the same one that the Glock 17, Beretta M92fs and Sig P226's shoot.  


it seems like only europeans use the name "9mm parabellum", but it's both the same.

Henry

actually, it's designed for big game hunting and stuff like that
and yes, it's a great bear hunting/defence round, along with the .500 S&W, if you haven't seen that round, you should check it out

sunny

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原帖由 Henry 於 14-2-2007 11:12 發表
read up my friend, read up:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9_mm_Luger_Parabellum

9mm luger, 9mm parabellum and 9mm luger parabellum are the same things, noone knows what 9mm parabellum is here  ...

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